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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2801 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:28 am

I love wxman57's sense of humor! :lol:

I've noticed the 12z GFS is a bit colder on surface temps for the Austin area on Friday and is trending towards the Euro. If an overrunning event does develop, there could be some freezing drizzle issues probably north and west of Austin in the hills. And at best it would be a light glaze on bridges and overpasses. But I still consider this a "reach" at this point. King Euro, however, for the last two runs has shown some FZDZ around the Austin metro area on Friday. Am watching with interest ...
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2802 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:35 am

The NWS has put a slight 20% chance of snow back in the forecast Thursday night and Friday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2803 Postby Theepicman116 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:39 am

All this snow talk has me excited! Since I'm not a professional I leave to the ones who are. I also leave it to the models.
Since I want snow I'm liking the GFS model over the European Model. Getting Snow is great and having school (I'm in high school) cancelled is just a bonus! :ggreen:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2804 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:02 pm

Theepicman116 wrote:All this snow talk has me excited! Since I'm not a professional I leave to the ones who are. I also leave it to the models.
Since I want snow I'm liking the GFS model over the European Model. Getting Snow is great and having school (I'm in high school) cancelled is just a bonus! :ggreen:


Where are you located, epicman? You might include a general location in your profile. Welcome to the forum. Personally, I like the model that's forecasting the warmest weather for Houston...
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2805 Postby Snowflake7 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:02 pm

I hope we can at least get one day of snow/sleet here in Euless

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2806 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:18 pm

Euro is very similar to 0z, panhandle, some in Oklahoma. Light precip near Austin, cold and dry elsewhere
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2807 Postby Brent » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:23 pm

Man the euro looks terrible east of here no snow in most of alabama lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2808 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:25 pm

Brent wrote:Man the euro looks terrible east of here no snow in most of alabama lol


Euro looks warm and wet for them but cold and dry for us
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2809 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:29 pm

Ntxw wrote:Euro is very similar to 0z, panhandle, some in Oklahoma. Light precip near Austin, cold and dry elsewhere


Some minor changes at H5 and not too different from the 12z GFS now. My takeaway, a blend is probably close to the final solution unless the system pulls a wild card.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2810 Postby Snowflake7 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:32 pm

I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2811 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:39 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Euro is very similar to 0z, panhandle, some in Oklahoma. Light precip near Austin, cold and dry elsewhere


Some minor changes at H5 and not too different from the 12z GFS now. My takeaway, a blend is probably close to the final solution unless the system pulls a wild card.


Huge shifts at the upper levels is probably unlikely at this point. We have a pretty good consensus of what will transpire in terms of path and temps. Now we just have to find moisture.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2812 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:40 pm

Theepicman116 wrote:All this snow talk has me excited! Since I'm not a professional I leave to the ones who are. I also leave it to the models.
Since I want snow I'm liking the GFS model over the European Model. Getting Snow is great and having school (I'm in high school) cancelled is just a bonus! :ggreen:


Welcome! Just 2 years ago I was in your shoes. I remember when my friend and I would goof off looking at models and laughing at how ridiculous they sometimes were. Other students used to think what the heck are they laughing at. :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2813 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:41 pm

Im still depressed that high is killing SE Tx chances. Was a great opportunity wasted! So bitter right now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2814 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:45 pm

Ntxw wrote:Euro is very similar to 0z, panhandle, some in Oklahoma. Light precip near Austin, cold and dry elsewhere


Actually the 12z Euro from what I can tell has a smaller area of precip near and west/southwest of Austin as compared to the 0z run. There is a little frozen stuff just to our west for about 4-6 hours and then it's gone. The overall precip area is reduced in the 12z run as compared to 0z. Hope it's wrong! :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2815 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:07 pm

I am liking this set-up for NE TX. Like always its a close call, but usually we do OK with developing Gulf lows. I have a feeling DFW may be too far west for much accum though with the cold air throughout the column there may be enough for and inch or two there. North of I-20 in NE TX I could see 1-3" with maybe a 4 or 5" amount in a sweet spot (best current guess would be around Marshall for that). Though there is the pesky Euro showing almost no precip falling out of this, I am discounting that for now as it has similar features shown as the others models. We are entering the edge of the NAM's range so we will see what it shows as things get closer. Thankfully all models are in pretty good agreement on all but moisture. I'll take my chances in E TX with moisture with all other factors being good.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2816 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:10 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Im still depressed that high is killing SE Tx chances. Was a great opportunity wasted! So bitter right now.


Our snow chances were never high with this event (<2%). Going from 2% to 0.1% isn't too much of a change.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2817 Postby Snowflake7 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:15 pm

wxman57 wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Im still depressed that high is killing SE Tx chances. Was a great opportunity wasted! So bitter right now.


Our snow chances were never high with this event (<2%). Going from 2% to 0.1% isn't too much of a change.


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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2818 Postby orangeblood » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:20 pm

While we're discussing a couple of inches of snow around these parts, the Lake Tahoe area is discussing a possible 150-180 inches over the next 10 days!! :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2819 Postby Texas Snow » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:53 pm

What is a good site for ECMWF precip/moisture forecasts? I really like the layout and ease of use of Tropical Tidbits but obviously they don’t have this for Euro and Canadian. Is this only available for pay sites and that’s why it’s hard to find a good one and why Tropical Tidbits doesn’t show it?
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2820 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:55 pm

Texas Snow wrote:What is a good site for ECMWF precip/moisture forecasts? I really like the layout and ease of use of Tropical Tidbits but obviously they don’t have this for Euro and Canadian. Is this only available for pay sites and that’s why it’s hard to find a good one and why Tropical Tidbits doesn’t show it?


Surface feature such as precip and temps are not free with the euro, it will require subscription. Posting private data (maps) of the euro is not allowed. Euro is a private enterprise unlike the GFS which is government, funded by taxpayers so all data is free.
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