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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3021 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:46 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:This one is really starting to look interesting..... :eek: Euro ENS, All Operationals and Euro Control going pretty wild with storm next week
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/conus/z500_anom/1643112000/1643803200-tkJcrEvxmBA.png
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Models have done some sig flip flopping in particular the ensembles. -PNA is now gone early Feb. Ridging east and west coast, good for TX.


I really hate to compare Feb '21, but i dont remember what factors led to the over the top blocking and the PV dropping down. The look at the end of the run does look good for Texas. I noticed that cyclonic wave breaking on the east coast is what leads to the PV coming down some and setting up the pattern at the end of the run. Is that what happened in the week or so leading up to 2/21?

I love looking at long range for educational purposes. It shows what we want to see, often, but it also shows what it takes to get there in the hours leading up to epic freezes or snowstorms in the long range.


Feb 21' was the classic case of a January Strat Warm event setting the stage for PV displacement further south during February....the location of the PV displacement happened to occur in just the right location (southern Canada) and for an abnormally long period of time that made the event so extraordinary for the Southern Plains.

The potential this Feb looks to be more Negative EPO/WPO driven, cross Polar flow with an occasional PV displacement across southern Canada....could go extreme if the Teleconnections line up just right

Last nights Euro illustrates the potential - cross polar flow digging into a Central US long wave trough with a lob of the PV heading due south out of Northern Canada. To go extreme, I'd imagine we'd need either a Greenland Block to lock the cold in or the negative EPO/WPO regime to lock in for an extended period of time sending PV lobs down every few days

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3022 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:48 am

wxman57 wrote:Interesting overnight GFS runs. Lots of moisture in sub-freezing air here in Houston Feb 7-8, not so much in DFW. Let's hope this does not verify, as I'd need to shut the water off and fill my Home Depot 5-gal buckets again. I'm not prepping the high-speed NASA for departure to Sydney just yet, as this event is way out in GFS fantasy land for now.

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZJan26GFS.JPG

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http://wxman57.com/images/6ZJan26GFS-DFW.JPG


Ok, now do last nights Euro :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3023 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:59 am

orangeblood wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Interesting overnight GFS runs. Lots of moisture in sub-freezing air here in Houston Feb 7-8, not so much in DFW. Let's hope this does not verify, as I'd need to shut the water off and fill my Home Depot 5-gal buckets again. I'm not prepping the high-speed NASA for departure to Sydney just yet, as this event is way out in GFS fantasy land for now.

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZJan26GFS.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZJan26GFS-DFW.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZJan26GFS.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZJan26GFS-DFW.JPG


Ok, now do last nights Euro :wink:


Always giving us DFW folks the business. Never poke at a dog with a stick! :mad:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3024 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:07 am

orangeblood wrote:Ok, now do last nights Euro :wink:


I can't get the raw data from the Euro very easily.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3025 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:22 am

wxman57 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:Ok, now do last nights Euro :wink:


I can't get the raw data from the Euro very easily.


oh, well here's its depiction of Next Week - Wednesday into Thursday. Euro and Canadian look very similar

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3026 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:31 am

I feel like i'm cheating on you guys, as I look out the window of the 6 fresh inches of snow on my balcony :P
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3027 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:44 am

Iceresistance wrote:Can Y'all please post the Mean & Ensemble Snowfall from the 0z & 6z GEFS? College of DuPage is having problems & I can't post it since it goes as far as 18z Yesterday.


It's working again, something went wrong.

6z GEFS has mean snowfall up to .5 inch in Central Oklahoma, & up to 1 inch for SW Oklahoma
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3028 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:55 am

The fact the Euro is on board is giving me some hope for now. At least we have something to watch, no matter what happens. Maybe we can finally get some moisture.

I haven't even seen rain in so long I can't remember.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3029 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:13 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:I feel like i'm cheating on you guys, as I look out the window of the 6 fresh inches of snow on my balcony :P

What a shame isn’t it? The 3°is a little cold though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3030 Postby HockeyTx82 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:14 am

rwfromkansas wrote:The fact the Euro is on board is giving me some hope for now. At least we have something to watch, no matter what happens. Maybe we can finally get some moisture.

I haven't even seen rain in so long I can't remember.


Yup. I installed my digital rain gauge a few days after Christmas. This morning I looked at it on my screen indoors. 24 days since last rain measurement.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3031 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:21 am

16 freezes for DFW this January so far. Maybe one more. Last night beat the forecast of 31-32 down to 28.

12z gfs looks like it's setting up to be a big run for southern plains.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3032 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:35 am

HockeyTx82 wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:The fact the Euro is on board is giving me some hope for now. At least we have something to watch, no matter what happens. Maybe we can finally get some moisture.

I haven't even seen rain in so long I can't remember.


Yup. I installed my digital rain gauge a few days after Christmas. This morning I looked at it on my screen indoors. 24 days since last rain measurement.


I've only had .80 since Dec. 1.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3033 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:35 am

rwfromkansas wrote:The fact the Euro is on board is giving me some hope for now. At least we have something to watch, no matter what happens. Maybe we can finally get some moisture.

I haven't even seen rain in so long I can't remember.


Yeah even up here we've had a couple brief showers but like I can't remember the last time it rained for like more than an hour :eek:

So yeah even if the initial storm next week is just a big rain that would definitely help
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3034 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:44 am

Winter Weather Advisory extended to US-81 for This Afternoon & Tonight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3035 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:44 am

12z GFS may have it for Next Weekend & it will change, but WOW!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3036 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:00 pm

This may not be here, but Mount Sunflower, KS recorded 29 inches of snow Yesterday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3037 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:02 pm

Iceresistance wrote:This may not be here, but Mount Sunflower, KS recorded 29 inches of snow Yesterday.


We need Kansas to be covered in snow. Will be great for our snowpack.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3038 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:04 pm

Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS may have it for Next Weekend & it will change, but WOW!


I notice that it is backing way off on the cold - 30-31 deg in Houston on the 8th vs. 19-20F on overnight runs. Could end up like the last few fronts, meaning a chance of a brief snowflake in north TX and light freeze here. February is a dangerous winter weather month, though...
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3039 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS may have it for Next Weekend & it will change, but WOW!


I notice that it is backing way off on the cold - 30-31 deg in Houston on the 8th vs. 19-20F on overnight runs. Could end up like the last few fronts, meaning a chance of a brief snowflake in north TX and light freeze here. February is a dangerous winter weather month, though...


It did back off on the cold for Houston, but there is still up to 1 inch of snow for the area.

I was mostly focused on the snowfall for my area, it really got me going!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3040 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:11 pm

The 12z CMC goes absolutely insane for next week for Northern Texas & Oklahoma, I get a FOOT of snow from a single storm! :eek:

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This is the worst case Scenario for DFW

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