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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3301 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:06 pm

Stratton23 wrote:I smell a mega bust coming for North texas


Yeah it's not there yet but it's trending that direction. Going to be some very interesting forecast discussions tomorrow morning. But again this is the sort of thing I was beating the drum over when these models a few days ago were going crazy with snowfall totals (Euro prime example).

Absent real arctic cold in place (modified) and a system that at that time hadn't even been sampled and then you add the development of a coastal low in tandem, just too many potential red flags to feel confident. It appears those red flags are showing up in a big way now the closer we get. Not the trend you want to see except decent rainfall for areas that need it. Like South Texas Storms as much as I hate cold rain, I'm going to hold that thought Thursday because we need every drop down here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3302 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:06 pm

00z GFS looks like a traditional North Texas winter storm. It starts out as rain, then mix, and then ends with snow. Totals depend on how fast the transition occurs. That fits climo for North Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3303 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:07 pm

Quixotic lol what? Im not hoping for anything, ive seen many times where events like this crumble at the last second, a bust is certainly possible
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3304 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:12 pm

CMC doesn't phase since the other trough left!

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3305 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:14 pm

Sleet to ice in DFW on 0z CMC, ouch
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3306 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:15 pm

Personally, I think y’all are getting too caught up in the globals. It’s mesoscale time.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3307 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:16 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3308 Postby snownado » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:16 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Personally, I think y’all are getting too caught up in the globals. It’s mesoscale time.


Your optimism is commendable...
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3309 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:17 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Personally, I think y’all are getting too caught up in the globals. It’s mesoscale time.


I would 100% agree if we were fretting over temp profiles. However, 500mb trends are the root of these changes, and the globals are going to handle that better.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3310 Postby Gotwood » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:17 pm

txtwister78 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:I smell a mega bust coming for North texas


Yeah it's not there yet but it's trending that direction. Going to be some very interesting forecast discussions tomorrow morning. But again this is the sort of thing I was beating the drum over when these models a few days ago were going crazy with snowfall totals (Euro prime example).

Absent real arctic cold in place (modified) and a system that at that time hadn't even been sampled and then you add the development of a coastal low in tandem, just too many potential red flags to feel confident. It appears those red flags are showing up in a big way now the closer we get. Not the trend you want to see except decent rainfall for areas that need it. Like South Texas Storms as much as I hate cold rain, I'm going to hold that thought Thursday because we need every drop down here.

Not sure what you consider “arctic” air but in Texas this is very much so arctic air. Dew points near 0.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3311 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:19 pm

Had your hopes up only to be crushed
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3312 Postby Gotwood » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:19 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Personally, I think y’all are getting too caught up in the globals. It’s mesoscale time.

Happens every single time. So many dynamics to pick up on.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3313 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:19 pm

After looking at soundings, I think this isn't too far off. A lot of what Pivotal is showing at Sleet is debatable.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3314 Postby Texas Snow » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:20 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Had your hopes up only to be crushed
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Dude, just stop
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3315 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:22 pm

Texas Snow wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Had your hopes up only to be crushed
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Dude, just stop

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3316 Postby TropicalTundra » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:23 pm

A light precip band is moving over to the metroplex. Maybe like 5-10 mins of baby flurries. The problem is it’s probably going to dry out by then
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3317 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:25 pm

Gotwood wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:I smell a mega bust coming for North texas


Yeah it's not there yet but it's trending that direction. Going to be some very interesting forecast discussions tomorrow morning. But again this is the sort of thing I was beating the drum over when these models a few days ago were going crazy with snowfall totals (Euro prime example).

Absent real arctic cold in place (modified) and a system that at that time hadn't even been sampled and then you add the development of a coastal low in tandem, just too many potential red flags to feel confident. It appears those red flags are showing up in a big way now the closer we get. Not the trend you want to see except decent rainfall for areas that need it. Like South Texas Storms as much as I hate cold rain, I'm going to hold that thought Thursday because we need every drop down here.

Not sure what you consider “arctic” air but in Texas this is very much so arctic air. Dew points near 0.


Uhhh...that alone doesn't equate to arctic air my friend. You can have low dewpoints following pacific fronts and, in the spring, following drylines? Ask west Texas (lol) So not sure your point on that. My point was this is not the type of cold weather setup that lends high confidence in these particular events that are strictly upper level driven. A much colder airmass in place and we're talking about a crippling ice storm for example. Thankfully that's not happening.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3318 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:26 pm

GEFS has really downtrended with the snow, which is just sad
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3319 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:27 pm

bubba hotep wrote:After looking at soundings, I think this isn't too far off. A lot of what Pivotal is showing at Sleet is debatable.

https://m2o.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gdps/2025010700/090/sn10_acc-imp.us_sc.png


Yeah over the years I've learned sounding forecasts are a better method if you can read them. The models don't output snow, ice, etc only qpf and temps. It's the site/middle source algorithm to best guess it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3320 Postby SnowintheFalls » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:30 pm

It is even looking marginal up on the Red River. What time does the Euro run?
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