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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3441 Postby SouthernMet » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:16 am

Texas Snow wrote:Has anyone compared the accuracy rates between the GFS Op and the Parallel? Just curious short/med/long range how it is doing since it may become operational in May.


Believe it or not, the GFS Para has been very accurate thus far and was the only model to accurately hold together the DFW snowband from Friday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3442 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:16 am

Shallow, sharp front on Friday, 70s ahead 30s and 40s behind it. 850s are warm, shallow air mass
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3443 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:23 am

Dfw stays above freeing, cold rain in the 30s, icing north and west
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3444 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:27 am

GFS is very wet like the Euro. Widespread 2-4" already Sunday and still raining

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3445 Postby SouthernMet » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:11 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3446 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:15 pm

Brent wrote:GFS is very wet like the Euro. Widespread 2-4" already Sunday and still raining

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... cus_31.png


I'll take that. Lots of rain for areas that need it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3447 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:19 pm

We do need a good soaking and in one of the driest months, January too! Looks like there'd be close to 4 days of rain if the models are right.

Have to admit if the storm is that wet/widespread(icy or not), reminds me more of el nino than la nina...
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3448 Postby TexasF6 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:36 pm

The air temps in North Asia are potent & powerfully cold. -50--60s for lows last night in some spots. If the Cross polar flow gets going, snowpack will limit modification as the air pours down the plains. Bears Watching.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3449 Postby hriverajr » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:40 pm

Ntxw wrote:12z GFS could be another big run.


Not quite as strong and extensive with the freezing rain.. but in general same trend continues.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3450 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:48 pm

hriverajr wrote:
Ntxw wrote:12z GFS could be another big run.


Not quite as strong and extensive with the freezing rain.. but in general same trend continues.


At first, I honestly thought the system was one of those erroneous cut off lows the euro likes to create in the long range and hang back and poof. Surprised the other guidance went there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3451 Postby CentralTxAggie » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:01 pm

14 here last night :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3452 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:41 pm

Euro just looks like a lot of rain in DFW, maybe not quite as wet as the gfs though
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3453 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:08 pm

I put a faucet cover on outdoor faucet in front (north facing on house by garage), also covered in a wrapped towel on Thursday night. I took off towel and faucet cover this morning. Faucet would not budge. Poured hot water on it. Faucet moved, but no water coming out. Turned off faucet. Poured hot water again, still nothing. After about a minute, finally water comes out.

So much for a cover AND towel over faucet.:/ Next time I guess I'll let it drip all night.

Weather service said this was the strongest cold front in nearly six years. I believe it! ;)
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3454 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:41 pm

Looks like the SE ridge is gonna confine most of the cold towards the western half of Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3455 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:45 pm

Yep, GFS 18z has freezing precip is closer to a Bowie to Brownwood line than a Dallas to Austin line. That is becoming a trend it seems, although the next parallel will be interesting to see if it follows the others west,
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3456 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:05 pm

Texas Snow wrote:Yep, GFS 18z has freezing precip is closer to a Bowie to Brownwood line than a Dallas to Austin line. That is becoming a trend it seems, although the next parallel will be interesting to see if it follows the others west,


Looking more closely, it looks like a Langtry-Brownwood-Sherman line. Everything west and north of that appears to have freezing precip. Everything east/south, a chilly rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3457 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:16 pm

The trends have been towards a faster PVA and a slower H5 trough in the SW.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3458 Postby aggiecutter » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:30 pm

Be forewarned, the models do a poor job of handling low level cold air.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3459 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:43 pm

aggiecutter wrote:Be forewarned, the models do a poor job of handling low level cold air.


That's what I was thinking when looking at the tight temp gradients across the above mentioned line. The denser air may have something to say about where that line sets up. We'll see...
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#3460 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:50 pm

Models were way too warm this weekend too another reason I'm not gonna let my eyes off this one. It easily could be a chilly rain for days too but it's too early to say for sure
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