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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3501 Postby mcallum177 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:36 am

If these temps verify this is extremely dangerous, even worse than 110 in the summer I'd imagine. Our population isn't prepared for this for sure. I know our own apartment complex has horrid insulation, I'm not even sure dripping our faucets would mitigate below 0 temps so I'm seriously concerned about a pipe busting flood situation at our place.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3502 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:38 am

mcallum177 wrote:If these temps verify this is extremely dangerous, even worse than 110 in the summer I'd imagine. Our population isn't prepared for this for sure. I know our own apartment complex has horrid insulation, I'm not even sure dripping our faucets would mitigate below 0 temps so I'm seriously concerned about a pipe busting flood situation at our place.


Yep, prep starts now...CMC coming in just as cold! However, it's going to take snow on the ground to get them that low...precip is still much more uncertain
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3503 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:39 am

At the same time GFS has parts of North Texas below 0, Canadian has near 0.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3504 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:42 am

It looks like my exterior faucet spigot covers will actually be needed for once. May need to check the attic. Think our insulation is good, but may be worth checking...
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3505 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:45 am

Wntrwthrguy wrote:At what point do we start looking at these extremely low temps as a legit possibility?


Believe it or not the outer perimeter of the Arctic air is on our doorstep right now. Even in the coldest of "modelology" we have never seen so many models and model runs like this leading up to an event (discarding 300+ hour GFS runs). Even if you take a conservative view you are still easily comparing it to the largest outbreaks of the past 20 years. At minimum it's an extended period of much below normal and below freezing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3506 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:49 am

Ntxw wrote:
Wntrwthrguy wrote:At what point do we start looking at these extremely low temps as a legit possibility?


Believe it or not the outer perimeter of the Arctic air is on our doorstep right now. Even in the coldest of "modelology" we have never seen so many models and model runs like this leading up to an event (discarding 300+ hour GFS runs). Even if you take a conservative view you are still easily comparing it to the largest outbreaks of the past 20 years. At minimum it's an extended period of much below normal and below freezing.


RE: precip chances, Looking over the latest GEFS, there's decent potential for 3 upper level disturbances rotating through the base of this PV across the southern plains over the next week...Thursday, Saturday and early next week
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3507 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:51 am

orangeblood wrote:
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Wntrwthrguy wrote:At what point do we start looking at these extremely low temps as a legit possibility?


Believe it or not the outer perimeter of the Arctic air is on our doorstep right now. Even in the coldest of "modelology" we have never seen so many models and model runs like this leading up to an event (discarding 300+ hour GFS runs). Even if you take a conservative view you are still easily comparing it to the largest outbreaks of the past 20 years. At minimum it's an extended period of much below normal and below freezing.


RE: precip chances, Looking over the latest GEFS, there's decent potential for 3 upper level disturbances rotating through the base of this PV across the southern plains over the next week...Thursday, Saturday and early next week


SW flow aloft has never wavered after trending a few days ago. The only difference is the models are resolving up north and seeing the reality of the cold air in place moving with some help from HP. Even when there isn't a big storm, there could be ripples within the southward PVa causing light snow etc. It's not going to be stuck in Kansas but rather clearing Mexico.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3508 Postby TropicalTundra » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:57 am

Looks like this cold air is just west of Wichita Falls, looks to be pushing through Abilene right now. Is this farther ahead than schedule? :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3509 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:58 am

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Believe it or not the outer perimeter of the Arctic air is on our doorstep right now. Even in the coldest of "modelology" we have never seen so many models and model runs like this leading up to an event (discarding 300+ hour GFS runs). Even if you take a conservative view you are still easily comparing it to the largest outbreaks of the past 20 years. At minimum it's an extended period of much below normal and below freezing.


RE: precip chances, Looking over the latest GEFS, there's decent potential for 3 upper level disturbances rotating through the base of this PV across the southern plains over the next week...Thursday, Saturday and early next week


SW flow aloft has never wavered after trending a few days ago. The only difference is the models are resolving up north and seeing the reality of the cold air in place moving with some help from HP. Even when there isn't a big storm, there could be ripples within the southward PVa causing light snow etc. It's not going to be stuck in Kansas but rather clearing Mexico.


Yep, it won't take much to squeeze moisture out in that type environment....GFS has 210 hrs of below freezing for DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3510 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:59 am

12z GFS Still calling for NASTY cold Temperatures & Winter Storms :eek:

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3511 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:00 pm

Temps have dropped 8 degrees up here in the last 30 min.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3512 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:03 pm

12zUKMET also with the Arctic Hammer....Will be interesting to read the NWS Forecast Discussions from around Texas.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3513 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:05 pm

Rgv20 wrote:12zUKMET also with the Arctic Hammer....Will be interesting to read the NWS Forecast Discussions from around Texas.

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12z UKMET also calling for some snow in Oklahoma & parts of Northern Texas Tuesday thru Thursday
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3514 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:07 pm

Rgv20 wrote:12zUKMET also with the Arctic Hammer....Will be interesting to read the NWS Forecast Discussions from around Texas.

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Low 20s for highs on Saturday. Friday is below freezing for DFW. Considering generally it is a conservative model.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3515 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:14 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Rgv20 wrote:12zUKMET also with the Arctic Hammer....Will be interesting to read the NWS Forecast Discussions from around Texas.

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Low 20s for highs on Saturday. Friday is below freezing for DFW. Considering generally it is a conservative model.


Also vortmax coming down the west coast behind the air mass on the UK. Usually spells big winter storm but it doesn't go out that far. At the very least it will continue to induce SW flow aloft for Pacific moisture within the cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3516 Postby Quixotic » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:17 pm

Must...curb...my....enthusiasm. Heavy snow? Always want. Bitter cold? Always want. The two together? Never seen that here. Maybe February of 1985 or one of the multitude of storms in 78. I'm sure the early 60s probably had something like it. Last time we had blizzard conditions was Christmas Eve 2009.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3517 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:20 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Rgv20 wrote:12zUKMET also with the Arctic Hammer....Will be interesting to read the NWS Forecast Discussions from around Texas.

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Low 20s for highs on Saturday. Friday is below freezing for DFW. Considering generally it is a conservative model.


With this kind of 500mb setup if they ran the UKMET 1 more day I would wager that an impressive winter storm will take place in Central/North Texas. Parts of South Texas will probably have the Austin Special Freezing Drizzle :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3518 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:21 pm

I threw in the towel yesterday and now I'm going buy faucet covers and some foam insulation :lol: .
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3519 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:23 pm

NWS FTW has upped the precip for Wednesday night to 50% and 50% for Thursday of freezing rain/Sleet

Temps are going to bust big time with current H/L starting tomorrow evening. looking at Wednesday highs remaining in the mid 30's with below freezing Wed night, and Thurs morning. Could see travel impacts across DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#3520 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:25 pm

12z CMC is calling for a wintery mess in the Southern Plains

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