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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3541 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:18 pm

harp wrote:After a day or so of excitement, we are back to radio silence…. :(


Yeah. Models started going the wrong way at 0z last night. Waiting for the 12z suite to finish.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3542 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:20 pm

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harp wrote:After a day or so of excitement, we are back to radio silence…. :(


Yeah. Models started going the wrong way at 0z last night. Waiting for the 12z suite to finish.

Still much of nothing, I think that the possible Winter Event is still too far away for it to be picked up by the models.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3543 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:24 pm

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harp wrote:After a day or so of excitement, we are back to radio silence…. :(


Yeah. Models started going the wrong way at 0z last night. Waiting for the 12z suite to finish.

Still much of nothing, I think that the possible Winter Event is still too far away for it to be picked up by the models.


I was referring to the ensembles. I don’t really care what the op’s show past 5 days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3544 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:38 pm

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Yeah. Models started going the wrong way at 0z last night. Waiting for the 12z suite to finish.

Still much of nothing, I think that the possible Winter Event is still too far away for it to be picked up by the models.


I was referring to the ensembles. I don’t really care what the op’s show past 5 days.

Snowfall signal improved for my area on the 12z GEFS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3545 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:38 pm

Cosgrove basically said on FB to ignore the models. Will see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3546 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:47 pm

Great 500mb look from the latest GEFS....Jan 25-30th has a lot of potential

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3547 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:56 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
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Yeah. Models started going the wrong way at 0z last night. Waiting for the 12z suite to finish.

Still much of nothing, I think that the possible Winter Event is still too far away for it to be picked up by the models.


I was referring to the ensembles. I don’t really care what the op’s show past 5 days.


Right now you have two camps. Up until the 20th or so the general guidance agrees the pattern flips. After that it's trough placement between the west (GEFS) and the East (GEPS) with EPS somewhere in between. I'd be more comfortable sitting west of the MS River. If you want moisture the west version with cold air overtaking more ideal. SOI dive is legit, Tahiti lower pressures and not TC related. I'd bank on the moisture side.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3548 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:02 pm

orangeblood wrote:Great 500mb look from the latest GEFS....Jan 25-30th has a lot of potential

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/gfs-ensemble-all-avg/namer/z500_anom/1673611200/1674626400-7XatCy53L74.png



Can we lock that in? I’ll be on the Continental Divide during that time frame.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3549 Postby Gotwood » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:52 pm

Got tired of waiting for snow taking the family to Pagosa springs, CO for a few days tomorrow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3550 Postby Cerlin » Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:02 pm

Finishing up my last day in Denver today. I’m glad to have missed the brief heat wave, even if I only saw one morning with flurries! Got a chance to go towards the mountains and crunch some ice beneath my feet at the very least. Some professionals I talked with at AMS agreed that February is almost a shoe-in to be cooler for the plains than January has been. I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3551 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:27 pm

I’m kinda concerned about the SE ridge poking its head into the eastern half of the state.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3552 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:41 pm

Cpv17 wrote:I’m kinda concerned about the SE ridge poking its head into the eastern half of the state.


I’m not. And if it does, it will be short lived.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3553 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:42 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:I’m kinda concerned about the SE ridge poking its head into the eastern half of the state.


I’m not. And if it does, it will be short lived.


What makes you so confident about that? We’ve seen it happen before.. just curious.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3554 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:44 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:I’m kinda concerned about the SE ridge poking its head into the eastern half of the state.


I’m not. And if it does, it will be short lived.


What makes you so confident about that? We’ve seen it happen before.. just curious.


You have a good concern, but at this range would only be a curious thought. We haven't seen it happen all winter yet. Right now we just need something dig into the west. We need moisture.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3555 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:18 pm

Ntxw wrote:
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I’m not. And if it does, it will be short lived.


What makes you so confident about that? We’ve seen it happen before.. just curious.


You have a good concern, but at this range would only be a curious thought. We haven't seen it happen all winter yet. Right now we just need something dig into the west. We need moisture.


Well one thing I’m noticing on the ensembles is that they kinda have a lil bit of a McFarland Signature. But for a true signature we’ll need that ridging to go more poleward.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3556 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:35 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
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Cpv17 wrote:I’m kinda concerned about the SE ridge poking its head into the eastern half of the state.


I’m not. And if it does, it will be short lived.


What makes you so confident about that? We’ve seen it happen before.. just curious.


That SE ridge isn’t modeled to be all that aggressive for one, but patterns tend to repeat in a non-constructive or low amplified MJO and as long as we don’t have a split, I don’t see a reshuffle with this one. This pattern will eventually overwhelm the entire country. I wouldn’t mind a SE ridge stopping around Lafayette to Lake Charles and leaving us on the cold side with the STJ pumping.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3557 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:36 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
What makes you so confident about that? We’ve seen it happen before.. just curious.


You have a good concern, but at this range would only be a curious thought. We haven't seen it happen all winter yet. Right now we just need something dig into the west. We need moisture.


Well one thing I’m noticing on the ensembles is that they kinda have a lil bit of a McFarland Signature. But for a true signature we’ll need that ridging to go more poleward.

Also need it to become part of the ECR as well, the ECR is better for the cold here and towards Louisiana than the SE Ridge itself.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3558 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:00 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
You have a good concern, but at this range would only be a curious thought. We haven't seen it happen all winter yet. Right now we just need something dig into the west. We need moisture.


Well one thing I’m noticing on the ensembles is that they kinda have a lil bit of a McFarland Signature. But for a true signature we’ll need that ridging to go more poleward.

Also need it to become part of the ECR as well, the ECR is better for the cold here and towards Louisiana than the SE Ridge itself.


The thought of a McFarland Signature with some ECR would be crazy exciting. Not sure I’ve ever experienced a setup like that. Not sure when was the last time we experienced a McFarland Signature.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3559 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:16 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Well one thing I’m noticing on the ensembles is that they kinda have a lil bit of a McFarland Signature. But for a true signature we’ll need that ridging to go more poleward.

Also need it to become part of the ECR as well, the ECR is better for the cold here and towards Louisiana than the SE Ridge itself.


The thought of a McFarland Signature with some ECR would be crazy exciting. Not sure I’ve ever experienced a setup like that. Not sure when was the last time we experienced a McFarland Signature.


McFarland's signature is just a type of pattern. It's basically the pattern recognition of -EPO before we had indexes with a cold air source. Nothing too spectacular about it, he just noted a certain 500mb set up would send cold air south to deep south Texas. Most of our outbreaks of big cold are variations of it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3560 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:16 pm

Cpv17 wrote:I’m kinda concerned about the SE ridge poking its head into the eastern half of the state.


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