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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3941 Postby harp » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:52 am

Holy poop!! I am loving the 12Z GFS for my area!! I’m sure it’s a rogue run, but wow!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3942 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:55 am

Ntxw wrote:
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Ntxw wrote:GFS unloads the cold air.


Snow down to the coast :lol:


Yep, all of the models now are opening the floodgates in the closing days of January.


New Orleans is getting sleetfested on that run . . .
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3943 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:00 pm

I would say things are going exactly as planned. The Pacific has just flipped now that we are post 20th and California's rains have shut off. There is a storm threat of snow in the southern plains nearing the 25th and models are now more consistently showing a potential Arctic outbreak associated with the TPV that has set up shop over North America.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3944 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:07 pm

That 12z GFS is nuts. We'd be in the freezer for so long, wxman57 would have to flee to the other hemisphere :lol:.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3945 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:08 pm

Ntxw wrote:I would say things are going exactly as planned. The Pacific has just flipped now that we are post 20th and California's rains have shut off. There is a storm threat of snow in the southern plains nearing the 25th and models are now more consistently showing a potential Arctic outbreak associated with the TPV that has set up shop over North America.


I’m happy with my January 20th flip prediction lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3946 Postby harp » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:09 pm

:cold: And snow again for south Louisiana on 2/4!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3947 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:11 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:I would say things are going exactly as planned. The Pacific has just flipped now that we are post 20th and California's rains have shut off. There is a storm threat of snow in the southern plains nearing the 25th and models are now more consistently showing a potential Arctic outbreak associated with the TPV that has set up shop over North America.


I’m happy with my January 20th flip prediction lol


Best part is, though still consider it too far out, there isn't a sign of deep cyclonesis along the trof. It would be hard to do so with the TPV/PV mass crushing any system trying to form. We'd see impulses ride the longwave trough, interesting times.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3948 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:13 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3949 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:17 pm

Ntxw wrote:That 12z GFS is nuts. We'd be in the freezer for so long, wxman57 would have to flee to the other hemisphere :lol:.


Maybe Alaska ?? These are incredible 7 day anomalies for the lower 48

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3950 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:21 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:That 12z GFS is nuts. We'd be in the freezer for so long, wxman57 would have to flee to the other hemisphere :lol:.


Maybe Alaska ?? These are incredible 7 day anomalies for the lower 48

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/gfs-deterministic/nhemi/t2m_f_anom_7day/1674302400/1675641600-ntmWfHJwfwU.png


Yeah December was very different. Great delivery pattern, one of the best but no local cold air, strictly what came and went from Siberia.

Now it's very different, we're in the time of season notorious for TPV events, the cold factory machine along with that Siberian infusion. It's fascinating to learn over the years how cold can be derived at points in the winter season.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3951 Postby WinterMax » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:24 pm

harp wrote:Holy poop!! I am loving the 12Z GFS for my area!! I’m sure it’s a rogue run, but wow!!


26 inches of snow and ice in Baton Rouge Harp, we ridin baw !! Hahaha
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3952 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:42 pm

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:That 12z GFS is nuts. We'd be in the freezer for so long, wxman57 would have to flee to the other hemisphere :lol:.


Maybe Alaska ?? These are incredible 7 day anomalies for the lower 48

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/gfs-deterministic/nhemi/t2m_f_anom_7day/1674302400/1675641600-ntmWfHJwfwU.png


Yeah December was very different. Great delivery pattern, one of the best but no local cold air, strictly what came and went from Siberia.

Now it's very different, we're in the time of season notorious for TPV events, the cold factory machine along with that Siberian infusion. It's fascinating to learn over the years how cold can be derived at points in the winter season.


It truly is…the rubber band effect , push/pull dynamic is what fascinates me the most. You pull the band one way or another, it almost always snaps back and the harder you pull out the harder it swings the other way. Just looking at a snap shot of an entire 90-120 day period doesn’t tell you much…most of the time it will look normal temp wise but it can be a heck of a roller coaster ride if you’re in it day to day/week to week
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3953 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:43 pm

12z GEFS trending drier for the Tuesday system.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3954 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:46 pm

Iceresistance wrote:12z GEFS trending drier for the Tuesday system.


?? Looks wetter for most of Texas and SE 1/2 of Oklahoma
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3955 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:47 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z GEFS trending drier for the Tuesday system.


?? Looks wetter for most of Texas and SE 1/2 of Oklahoma
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/gfs-ensemble-all-avg/scentus/total_precip_inch/1674302400/1674648000-Ij7R9KsMz3U.png r

For me, and on the snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3956 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:51 pm

Euro running. Interested not just on the storm but 144-240hrs. It started this -EPO and cold dump before the GFS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3957 Postby harp » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:52 pm

Ntxw wrote:Euro running. Interested not just on the storm but 144-240hrs. It started this -EPO and cold dump before the GFS.

Keep us posted. Thanks
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3958 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:53 pm

The GFS trend is a bit concerning. I think the NWS approach of a late changeover is the right call this early. We may not know until late Monday what is actually going to happen with this type of setup. I will hope and pray for some good trends of dynamics being good and temps not too warm.

I will say the Lezak method has put out for a month or two really that it would get cold around the 30th to early Feb time.

No matter what, glad we will get a good rain this month! Let's start the year off strong precip-wise.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3959 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:08 pm

12z Euro has the trough back to El Paso, weaker though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3960 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:15 pm

What the heck Euro? Why the sleetfest?
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