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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4401 Postby HockeyTx82 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:38 am

bubba hotep wrote:
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Quixotic wrote:Alright. Now the real fun begins. The emotional highs and lows. The freak outs when you get 6” and the guy down the road got 7.


Today was a good day to step away, storm is coming but the hi-res output was still at the fringes of usability. Tomorrow is when the fun starts lol


Someone has to post it!
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2022020106/gfs_asnow_scus_17.png

However, as wxman57 posted above its a lot more complicated than just posting clown maps when it comes to forecasting winter wx. However, however, clown maps have been known to come true lol


Honk honk!!! :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4402 Postby wxman57 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:39 am

bubba hotep wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Alright. Now the real fun begins. The emotional highs and lows. The freak outs when you get 6” and the guy down the road got 7.


Today was a good day to step away, storm is coming but the hi-res output was still at the fringes of usability. Tomorrow is when the fun starts lol


Someone has to post it!
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2022020106/gfs_asnow_scus_17.png

However, as wxman57 posted above its a lot more complicated than just posting clown maps when it comes to forecasting winter wx. However, however, clown maps have been known to come true lol


That map would be true if all the freezing rain and sleet fell as snow. Keep hoping...
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4403 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:42 am

SHV is still very conservative which I guess is understandable given that only the western fringe of their area should see significant impacts. I expect to be placed into a watch after 12z runs are analyzed. With warnings coming out tonight, maybe SHV watis on warnings until tomorrow morning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4404 Postby cstrunk » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:48 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:SHV is still very conservative which I guess is understandable given that only the western fringe of their area should see significant impacts. I expect to be placed into a watch after 12z runs are analyzed. With warnings coming out tonight, maybe SHV watis on warnings until tomorrow morning.


I would also expect Smith and Wood counties to be placed under a watch/warning at some point.

The 06z GFS images that wxman57 posted a bit ago have edged frozen precip even further SE for our area. The transition looks to happen closer to noon Thursday instead of later in the afternoon. That run gives Longview 0.19" freezing rain.

The SE trend continues...
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4405 Postby ROCK » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:50 am

Portastorm wrote:Didn’t see it mentioned earlier … Winter Storm Watch in effect here in the Austin area for Thursday. NWS says up to 1/4” ice accumulation possible. I I have seen 0.08” paralyze this town when it froze all the bridges and overpasses.


1/4 is huge and probably will shut down Austin, Dallas and FTW. I am frozen from 11pm tomorrow until 5pm Saturday with a low of 7 Thursday night. Might take a while to evap.

Rewrapping water well pipes today and brining in some fire wood. Just going to hunker down for next 3 days and hope I don’t lose power.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4406 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:54 am

I'm trying to help out at my school on when to be Virtual due to the weather conditions. Right now, it appears that Wednesday might be out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4407 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:57 am

GEFS has 6 inches of snow mostly along I-44, & that's the 10:1 ratio snowfall.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4408 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:59 am

The FWD forecast discussion states they believe the metro will hit freezing around 9pm now, and that they believe the models showing a tapering of precip in the middle of the event are underdoing qpf. If they continue these thoughts, I think accumulation forecasts are going to increase for the area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4409 Postby gboudx » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:00 am

ROCK wrote:
Portastorm wrote:Didn’t see it mentioned earlier … Winter Storm Watch in effect here in the Austin area for Thursday. NWS says up to 1/4” ice accumulation possible. I I have seen 0.08” paralyze this town when it froze all the bridges and overpasses.


1/4 is huge and probably will shut down Austin, Dallas and FTW. I am frozen from 11pm tomorrow until 5pm Saturday with a low of 7 Thursday night. Might take a while to evap.

Rewrapping water well pipes today and brining in some fire wood. Just going to hunker down for next 3 days and hope I don’t lose power.


Is your location still Kemah? Confused by the location and comment about being frozen from 11pm tomorrow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4410 Postby orangeblood » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:01 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:The FWD forecast discussion states they believe the metro will hit freezing around 9pm now, and that they believe the models showing a tapering of precip in the middle of the event are underdoing qpf. If they continue these thoughts, I think accumulation forecasts are going to increase for the area.


Just look at the latest NBM comp ref forecast, just as Frz line begins moving through North Texas…. :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4411 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:04 am

cstrunk wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:SHV is still very conservative which I guess is understandable given that only the western fringe of their area should see significant impacts. I expect to be placed into a watch after 12z runs are analyzed. With warnings coming out tonight, maybe SHV watis on warnings until tomorrow morning.


I would also expect Smith and Wood counties to be placed under a watch/warning at some point.

The 06z GFS images that wxman57 posted a bit ago have edged frozen precip even further SE for our area. The transition looks to happen closer to noon Thursday instead of later in the afternoon. That run gives Longview 0.19" freezing rain.

The SE trend continues...

Yep Longview is on the edge but I'd lean towards at least advisory level ice for Gregg Co.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4412 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:05 am

At 48hr, 12z HRRR is colder than 06z 3k NAM but not as cold as 06z GFS.

At 14hr, 12z 3k NAM is moving cold air south faster with areas in the northern Panhandles (leading edge of freezing line) about 5F cooler than 00z.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4413 Postby rwfromkansas » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 am

Iceresistance wrote:I'm trying to help out at my school on when to be Virtual due to the weather conditions. Right now, it appears that Wednesday might be out.


Stinks you have to do virtual. Am glad here they declare bad weather days are just days off.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4414 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:13 am

rwfromkansas wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:I'm trying to help out at my school on when to be Virtual due to the weather conditions. Right now, it appears that Wednesday might be out.


Stinks you have to do virtual. Am glad here they declare bad weather days are just days off.


I do thrive on Virtual Learning, even though that I had 3 snow days during the 2020 October Ice Storm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4415 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:21 am

Me & Brent got absolutely NAMed on the 12z run
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4416 Postby ROCK » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:27 am

gboudx wrote:
ROCK wrote:
Portastorm wrote:Didn’t see it mentioned earlier … Winter Storm Watch in effect here in the Austin area for Thursday. NWS says up to 1/4” ice accumulation possible. I I have seen 0.08” paralyze this town when it froze all the bridges and overpasses.


1/4 is huge and probably will shut down Austin, Dallas and FTW. I am frozen from 11pm tomorrow until 5pm Saturday with a low of 7 Thursday night. Might take a while to evap.

Rewrapping water well pipes today and brining in some fire wood. Just going to hunker down for next 3 days and hope I don’t lose power.


Is your location still Kemah? Confused by the location and comment about being frozen from 11pm tomorrow.


Nah I am up in Brownwood Central Texas as you can get. lol. Decided go country life lol…Didn’t realize it’s gets this cold up here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4417 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:33 am

Iceresistance wrote:Me & Brent got absolutely NAMed on the 12z run


Double digits showing up :double: :spam: it's not impossible if we skip a lot of the sleet

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4418 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:34 am

bubba hotep wrote:At 48hr, 12z HRRR is colder than 06z 3k NAM but not as cold as 06z GFS.

At 14hr, 12z 3k NAM is moving cold air south faster with areas in the northern Panhandles (leading edge of freezing line) about 5F cooler than 00z.


Freezing line is running about 1 row of counties faster than 06z. The 3K NAM is trending towards getting DFW (at least northern portions) below freezing before the onset of significant precipitation.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4419 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:37 am

I found this sounding on the 6z ICON, the Warm Nose is already gone, but the DGZ, jeez.

Also Heavy Snow at 15°F (-9.4°C), the Snowfall Ratio is much higher than 10:1, it's likely closer to 15:1 to 17:1

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#4420 Postby dhweather » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:39 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:SHV is still very conservative which I guess is understandable given that only the western fringe of their area should see significant impacts. I expect to be placed into a watch after 12z runs are analyzed. With warnings coming out tonight, maybe SHV watis on warnings until tomorrow morning.



There's likely going to be a line of sadness somewhere along a line from San Antonio to Texarkana - at or above freezing. Sunday I thought that might happen along the I-35 corridor, maybe the 0Z moves it further east?
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