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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5161 Postby stormlover2013 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:38 am

12 nam is more north
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5162 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:43 am

Tireman4 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:All 3 global models (Euro, GFS, CMC) predict significant snow Tuesday from the Texas coast through the FL Panhandle. NAM does, too. Generally 1-3". That's the only good use for cold. It's rare to see such good agreement on a snow event.
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Umm, are you sure you to do this? You realize that you are abandoning all hope of your thermostat working? If this happens, you have to go chasing with Porta in his snow chase car, Champ the Charger. :)


We, the cold mongers, have taken control. No going back now for wxman57 he must endure this lost battle in the neverending war good vs evil! We are using the gulf coast sand beaches as battle ground, he dreams of 1986 of which will never come!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5163 Postby Tireman4 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:47 am

Ntxw wrote:
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wxman57 wrote:All 3 global models (Euro, GFS, CMC) predict significant snow Tuesday from the Texas coast through the FL Panhandle. NAM does, too. Generally 1-3". That's the only good use for cold. It's rare to see such good agreement on a snow event.
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Umm, are you sure you to do this? You realize that you are abandoning all hope of your thermostat working? If this happens, you have to go chasing with Porta in his snow chase car, Champ the Charger. :)


We, the cold mongers, have taken control. No going back now for wxman57 he must endure this lost battle in the neverending war good vs evil!


Yeah. You know how many days he taunted us in 2011. That High Pressure Ridge of Death ate a tropical storm Ntwx. It literally ate it. He just smiled and smiled. It got to the point that year that I was just running and saying, "to heck with this". He still smiled and smiled. Well, sir, I hope you freeze your fanny off. :) ( Wxman57, you know we luv ya).
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5164 Postby Snowman67 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:50 am

Wxman57 - Do you expect Hou/Glv NWS to increase precipitation percentages and precipitation type in their next update?
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5165 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:50 am

People in Houston Metro are really seeing a piece of history if this plays out. I can only think of 2 other years where there were multiple Winter Storms.

Hopefully we get an inch of sleet with 3 inches of snow on top.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5166 Postby Tireman4 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:02 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:People in Houston Metro are really seeing a piece of history if this plays out. I can only think of 2 other years where there were multiple Winter Storms.

Hopefully we get an inch of sleet with 3 inches of snow on top.


1973..that was the year you are speaking of....that was a year. Man oh man...three in one year...

I was in first grade and remember it well. Very well.


Exactly two inches in January of 1973. The following month, February, had two days of more than one inch, making a total of 4.8 inches. During the winter of 1972-73 it snowed three times, although 1972 records only show “a trace”. Total for that winter was the 4.8 plus a trace, and it is the only year on record with more than two snowfalls in a year.

http://www.examiner.com/article/some-hi ... ston-texas
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5167 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:19 am

Wntrwthrguy wrote:
wxman57 wrote:All 3 global models (Euro, GFS, CMC) predict significant snow Tuesday from the Texas coast through the FL Panhandle. NAM does, too. Generally 1-3". That's the only good use for cold. It's rare to see such good agreement on a snow event.


Anything for the Austin area or is this storm predicted to be south and east?


In short, yes. Austin will impacted per the models. All of them show accumulations of snow and/or ice from 1/4" to 2", depending on the model. In fact, the GFS -- which did well for us on the last event -- is growing "wetter" each run and now has twice as much QPF for Austin as the last storm.

This one will be a real "hoot" also ... should this thing play out like the current models suggest. Precip will start Tuesday morning while we're all at work or school. Then we get to play the "Let Everyone Home from Work or School At the Same Time" game! You know, the one where we all end up stuck in gridlock for hours. That happened back in 2004. :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5168 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:20 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:People in Houston Metro are really seeing a piece of history if this plays out. I can only think of 2 other years where there were multiple Winter Storms.

Hopefully we get an inch of sleet with 3 inches of snow on top.


Was just saying this for our area last night. Can't remember two in one month, much less two in just under a week of each other. Also I think for here we are going to break the all time coldest January ever. And now we have the possibility of a potential historic winter storm to add to this, especially if this is the start of the models trending a little more north.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5169 Postby PineyWoods » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:28 am

Tireman4 wrote:
1973..that was the year you are speaking of....that was a year. Man oh man...three in one year...

I was in first grade and remember it well. Very well.


Exactly two inches in January of 1973. The following month, February, had two days of more than one inch, making a total of 4.8 inches. During the winter of 1972-73 it snowed three times, although 1972 records only show “a trace”. Total for that winter was the 4.8 plus a trace, and it is the only year on record with more than two snowfalls in a year.

http://www.examiner.com/article/some-hi ... ston-texas


I remember it too. Was in the 8th grade at Spring Oaks Jr high.
We skipped school on the second event, got caught and got Saturday detention, and guess what it did that Saturday? Snowed.

Hope you all get a nice beautiful snowfall this week. Guess will just have cold again here in Tyler.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5170 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 am

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Wxman,

our nws office is only going with .10 in of ice accumulation, lesser qpf (euro/ukmet), right now due the hpc graphics and shortwave not being as strong as some other models are showing. Is the euro that much drier?


Euro has 1-3" across south Louisiana along I-10.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5171 Postby megsy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:54 am

wxman57 wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Wxman,

our nws office is only going with .10 in of ice accumulation, lesser qpf (euro/ukmet), right now due the hpc graphics and shortwave not being as strong as some other models are showing. Is the euro that much drier?


Euro has 1-3" across south Louisiana along I-10.
Wxman, what's your gut feeling for Houston/Katy area?
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5172 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:56 am

Is College Station too far north to get in on the fun?
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5173 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:57 am

12z GFS rolling in now ... watching the 500mb vorticity maps. At 24 hours (12z Mon), the upper low looks a bit stronger (as compared to the 6z and 0z GFS) and is digging southeast, still off the deep Southern California coastline.
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#5174 Postby gboudx » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:00 am

Boring weather for NTX this week as we enjoy a nice virga snow again. But Steve McCauley gives hope for actual precip making it to the ground in the weeks ahead:
At least a weather pattern change is indicated as we head into the month of February, so that likely means more significant storm systems will be moving our way!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5175 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:01 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:Is College Station too far north to get in on the fun?


12z NAM and 6z GFS say "no, College Station is not too far north." Both have trace amounts up to close to 1" of sleet/snow mix.
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#5176 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:01 am

gboudx wrote:Boring weather for NTX this week as we enjoy a nice virga snow again. But Steve McCauley gives hope for actual precip making it to the ground in the weeks ahead:
At least a weather pattern change is indicated as we head into the month of February, so that likely means more significant storm systems will be moving our way!


He is right it will. -PNA is on the way the index is falling, we'll be talking about panhandle hookers and great plains blizzards pretty soon. It's a repeat of the December pattern with warmth on the east coast, southeast and cold centered in the inter mountain west and high plains.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5177 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:05 am

12z GFS thru 30 hours, 500mb low looks similar to 6z run in terms of strength and location. Digging into Baja.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5178 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:15 am

Portastorm wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:Is College Station too far north to get in on the fun?


12z NAM and 6z GFS say "no, College Station is not too far north." Both have trace amounts up to close to 1" of sleet/snow mix.


12z NAM and GFS actually show about 2 inches of sleet/snow in College Station lasting from about 3 am to noon on Tuesday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5179 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:16 am

12z GFS thru 42 hours -- 500mb definitely stronger with greater definition/vorticity. Location still over Baja/Gulf of California. Looks a wee bit slower than 6z/0z runs so far.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5180 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:17 am

South Texas Storms wrote:
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cheezyWXguy wrote:Is College Station too far north to get in on the fun?


12z NAM and 6z GFS say "no, College Station is not too far north." Both have trace amounts up to close to 1" of sleet/snow mix.


12z NAM and GFS actually show about 2 inches of sleet/snow in College Station lasting from about 3 am to noon on Tuesday.


Thanks for the clarification STS. I did a quick glance at some rough precip amts per Earl Barker's page. I didn't want to overstate the potential and get accused of "hype." :wink:
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