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Guest · #5161 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:45 am

TT you are really throwing things out of proportion, yet, you still havn't answered any questions... You are just constantly bashing me on what i say or do, or don't say or don't do... Why would i want to share such a golden site that snow wizz just recently uncovered... The link to the particular map for some reason is inactive... And how can you say this current formation of the upper air pattern happens every year in the end of April? It doesn't!!! all of the analogs for this week (April 24-29th) were PRE-1970...

And me and snowwizz have actually been friends for longer than you think... When he found this site he showed it to me... have you ever heard of Aol Instant Messanger? Yeah we use that to get away from people like you.we talk about the same stuff that we talk about on the forum on AIM only without your bickering in return... I really could care less what you think... You will see eventually...You will see. :lol:

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And Anthony? I am going to have to pull a line from my favorite movie of HAPPY GILMORE... (Chubs)"you spoken like a true A** H***"... Why should I stop arguing when i know I am right? TT isn't answering any of my questions or backing up why this month is so normal beisides his stupid Monthly AVERAGE. Show me some posts where you have answered me recently on my questions... And then try to find some posts where you have bashed me... I am pretty sure it is lopsided... It is just funny, because i know for a fact that this upper air pattern is sooo new to this day and age that its totally out of style...

Guest · #5162 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:48 am

TT, you must have gotten hit in the head or something when looking and a completely normal pattern because it is just jammed in your brain.

Guest · #5163 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:54 am

So TT, are you saying that this entire year from January to April has been about completely normal?

So The 2 week cold spell in the first half of January was completely normal
So the 2 weeks of FREAKISH warmth in the 2nd half of January was normal
So the absolutely BONE DRY february with extreme high temps and extreme low temps was completely normal
So you are saying that the 110 inch snowfall in 10 days at the end of march after a VERY WARM first half of the month was normal
So you are saying that the huge trough that dug under us in the beginning of April that left us with lightning, hail, heavy rains, and EVEN SNOW was normal... SNOW ON APRIL 11th, sure its happened in other aprils... but its not normal.
Most analogs from this entire year have been pre- warm phase.
Even you admitted that we could possibly headed into a cold phase right now, but now that there has been stuff supporting that change back, you are denying it and calling it normal weather.. yeah maybe normal weather from back in the 50's-70's... TT, are you going back in time?

Guest · #5164 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:12 am

TT-SEA wrote:Nice day. We were all very comfortable in our summer clothes. The sun was actually hot in places. The smell of suntan lotion and seeing everyone out in shorts and t-shirts... feels awesome!!

Mostly mid and upper 60's but some low 70's on the Eastside.

Just need to mention... my forecast that Brennan keeps quoting had mid to upper 60's today.

I am struggling to imagine a more normal April. I guess we had one day that was really abnormal (last Friday). Otherwise... this is about as normal as a month can be. I am not being difficult here. I just think a period of cool weather and a period of warm weather with rainfall close to normal... is... well... for lack of a better word... normal.

I give Snow_Wizzard credit for predicting the showers last night. Most places had small amounts but we had .50 which is pretty good. However... his overall forecast for this weekend was much gloomier than reality. The feeling of sunburn on my face is evidence of that!!

So, TT, you say a period of warm weather followed by a period of cool weather makes this month feel completely normal... What could make this month not normal then? A period of cold weather followed by a 3 day hott spell followed by extreme cold? For your definition of abnormal, you would have to look for the most extreme weather to find an abnormal month...

And about the sunburn on your face... Did you know that you could subburn in -20 degree temps just as well as in 100 degree temps? As long as the sun's angle is the same for both.

Guest · #5165 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:13 am

And also, YOU USED THE WORD THINK in there instead of it being like a fact... you think its normal... What you do not know is that it is not normal.

andrewr · #5166 Postby **andrewr** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:24 am

It's 4:25am and raining steadily. There seems to be a shower stretched from a little North of Seattle all the way down passed Olympia. A tenth of an inch has fallen and it doesn't appear to be moving anywhere anytime soon.

Guest · #5167 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:02 am

TT it appears that your prediction that it would be sunny from last wednesday through the end of the month is wrong... Looks like you don't know everything after all. Ah ha ha ha ha :grrr:

TT-SEA · #5168 Postby **TT-SEA** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:22 am

Brennan... you ignore my questions and just plod on with twisting fine details. Once again I think you are just being annoying to be annoying. Not that you truly believe or care about your argument.

Yes... you can get a sunburn at -20 or 100 degrees. Snow_Wizzard said Sunday was going to be cloudy, cool, and showery. Had it been... we would not have been out in shorts, t-shirts, and sandals. Hence... we would not have been sunburned. We would have been inside doing something.

Most of the events you detailed in this incredibly strange year happened in 1993 as well.

Almost none of those things happened in 1951.

Tell me how that is a good match??

The analog years have been from all decades recently. But 1993 keeps popping up. Remember... those are just close matches. Saying there are no analog years after 1970 is wrong... but also would not mean we have seen anything like this since.

Actually we did... in 1993.

andycottle · #5169 Postby **andycottle** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:35 am

Good morning folks.

We recieved a little rain shower during the pre-dawn hours of this morning and only picked up .04" of precip. Currently I have cloudy skies with a temp of 49 as of 7:42a.m.

-- Andy

TT-SEA · #5170 Postby **TT-SEA** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:52 pm

How is that forecast of lows in the mid 20's working out Brennan???

Brennan's forecasted low at Olympia for Thursday:

31 degrees

Actual low this morning in Olympia:

53 degrees

Wow... only 22 degrees off. Now... you forecasted 25 for a low the next two nights. You might be closer to 30 degrees off on those days.

22 degrees off within 3 days. Steve Pool would be fired.

And you cannot even claim timing. Had it gotten down to 25 degrees on Tuesday in Olympia I would be much more likely to give you credit for the pattern just not the timing. As was the issue with my forecast last week.

Not so easy is it??

Guest · #5171 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:17 pm

TT that forecast was from several days ago... If i would have been changing my forecast every day like you often do it wouldn't have been near that... The clouds as of late kind of snuck up on us the last couple of days and didn't allow the low dew points take over with clear skies... Also, compressional heating took part in keeping us warm as well. The dew point yesturday here in Bellingham was 27* with clear skies... now that is dry air when the temp is 70*... Doesn't happen too often here. I am sorry but I think the clouds and showers sort of caught everyone by surprise as the week went along... Because at the beginning of the week Everything looked clear all week and the first sign of showers didn't look to be until late saturday or into Sunday... Here be it Wednsday night and thursday people are getting rain. Yes TT i was way off on the lows... Big deal, i'm not the only one that thought it would get into the 30's... I made my prediction based on what the GFS showed as of about 3 or 4 days ago and gave the cold side the benifit of the doubt...

And no TT i am not just doing this to be annoying, i am doing it because i think you are wrong about this... You have used 1 year... JUST 1 year this whole entire time to defend your side, that year was 1993... SO WHAT, 1 year... Start listing others and maybe your side will be a bit more believable... And you say don't get so tied up with Details... If it weren't for the minor details that went wrong in early January, we would have had ourselves an old fashion winter storm and cold spell.... Details are just as important as overall stuff like average temperature in a month.

Guest · #5172 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:18 pm

And TT I am going to say it again... The upper air pattern late this week is very very very very very similar to the one that happened on April 20th 1951... VERY SIMILAR... It was just fine details that were different.

Guest · #5173 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:23 pm

And to tell you the truth, it seems to me like you don't really put forth much effort in actually making this a fact based debate... All you give is your opinion along with 1 year of similarity to this one.

AnthonyC · #5174 Postby **AnthonyC** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:40 pm

Brennan,

PLEASE STOP! You're accusations against TT-SEA are childish and annoying. Take a few weeks off the boards, cool down and come back with a sane mind. Do you realize some of the stuff you post? You keep saying the same thing over and over again...yet nothing is factual. Just chill...take a break from the message boards. I can't speak for everyone, but you're starting to bug the h*ll out of me.

Anthony

Guest · #5175 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:40 pm

TT does this pattern sitting over north america look similar to the current 500mb map over north america? Try to find a closer match for this time of year... THIS IS NOT NORMAL.. I wasn't trying to talk about sequences and years and crap about 1993... what i am saying is that this type of upper pattern isn't normal for the end of april

http://img11.echo.cx/my.php?image=simil ... 0056io.gif

Guest · #5176 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:41 pm

The difference with the two is that this one didn't pan out very well... Small details messed us up, one being the clouds that came in unexpectedly and even dropped some rain on us...

Guest · #5177 Postby **Guest** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:45 pm

And TT, if this is sooo normal to happen in western washington, why is the NWS having such a hard time forecasting as well?

Lindaloo · #5178 Postby **Lindaloo** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:02 pm

Brennan, last time I checked S2K allows people to voice opinions. If you have a problem, please PM an Admin or a moderator and keep this off the board. Thanks.

#5179 Postby **cycloneye** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:08 pm

Yes she is right.Please *Brennan*tune down that kind of talk.

andycottle · #5180 Postby **andycottle** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:47 pm

Good afternoon all! 8-)

Another nice day here dispite some morning clouds and an early rain shower. It was generally a mostly sunny day from about late morning onward. Though late this afternoon...we had some scattered high clouds come in which is making for partly cloudy right now. Current temp is 66 with humidity 37%. My high today was 71 with a low of 48. -- Andy

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