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#5821 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:38 am

Ralph's Weather, hundreds of North Texas school districts - not to mention insurance companies - would argue that the ball got kicked on Sunday night and Monday morning. And then some.
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#5822 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:38 am

:uarrow: lets hope Lucy didn't ice the kicker. :lol: I'll be happy with 2-4 inches of snow here, but I would love for one of the heavier snow bands to set up right along Southern Denton county.
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#5823 Postby high_lander » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:39 am

Busting up ice in the driveway is a heck of a workout!

I am not sure why but I have this feeling (with no evidence whatsoever) that tonight is going surprise everyone.
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#5824 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:42 am

:uarrow: Yup, somebody should see plenty of whatever it is that the thermal profile will bring. :cheesy:
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#5825 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:42 am

:uarrow: Yeah it is a work out, luckily my day found some better salt this year that kept my drive a slush, but having to shovel out a driveway that was covered in 5 inches of refrozen sleet last year was no fun. :x
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#5826 Postby iorange55 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:42 am

high_lander wrote:Busting up ice in the driveway is a heck of a workout!

I am not sure why but I have this feeling (with no evidence whatsoever) that tonight is going surprise everyone.


A lot of people will be surprised -- both good and bad. Some people may miss the precip completely.
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#5827 Postby wxman57 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:43 am

Texas Snowman wrote:Ralph's Weather, hundreds of North Texas school districts - not to mention insurance companies - would argue that the ball got kicked and then some.


Does sleet and freezing rain count now? Is that what everyone really wants? Not snow? Come on, wait for the snow.

12Z NAM has a little warmer air aloft than the GFS, and thus has the snow forming north of the D-FW Metroplex tonight. So the GFS is south, NAM is north. Somebody will likely get an inch or more of snow tonight (not Houston, though).

I just hope that everyone sees measurable snow tonight so we can stop all this talk of winter weather...
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#5828 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:47 am

wxman57 wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:Ralph's Weather, hundreds of North Texas school districts - not to mention insurance companies - would argue that the ball got kicked and then some.


Does sleet and freezing rain count now? Is that what everyone really wants? Not snow? Come on, wait for the snow.

12Z NAM has a little warmer air aloft than the GFS, and thus has the snow forming north of the D-FW Metroplex tonight. So the GFS is south, NAM is north. Somebody will likely get an inch or more of snow tonight (not Houston, though).

I just hope that everyone sees measurable snow tonight so we can stop all this talk of winter weather...


You have had your fun this winter sir! Let us gloat a bit this week :)
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#5829 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:53 am

We have pilled up 46 pages in this thread since the NWS in FW posted their special winter weather statement last Friday about this weeks storm systems.
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#5830 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:55 am

:uarrow: Yeah, but it doesn't count, you know, sleet not snow.
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#5831 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:01 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:Ralph's Weather, hundreds of North Texas school districts - not to mention insurance companies - would argue that the ball got kicked on Sunday night and Monday morning. And then some.

Oh I agree, I missed work yesterday because of it. I was just going by wxman57's strict definition of snow.
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#5832 Postby Shoshana » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:09 pm

ndale wrote:EWX is showing a possibility of snow as close to me tonight as Georgetown (about 8-10 miles to my north) but for me and the rest of the Austin area just cold rain.


As much as we need the rain, I'd really rather have some snow. I don't remember any winter with as much 33f and rain. Just snow goshdarnit!

On the other hand, the bluebonnets have had their 3 freezes and abundant rain. That bodes well for a good showing.
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#5833 Postby orangeblood » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:10 pm

Really tough forecast for Fort Worth NWS tonight....100 mile difference between NAM and GFS/Canadian on where heavy axis of snow will set up. NAM = DFW to Texarkana gets pounded, Canadian RGEM = Waco to Longview. Big difference in where to hoist warnings!!
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#5834 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:Ralph's Weather, hundreds of North Texas school districts - not to mention insurance companies - would argue that the ball got kicked and then some.


Does sleet and freezing rain count now? Is that what everyone really wants? Not snow? Come on, wait for the snow.

12Z NAM has a little warmer air aloft than the GFS, and thus has the snow forming north of the D-FW Metroplex tonight. So the GFS is south, NAM is north. Somebody will likely get an inch or more of snow tonight (not Houston, though).

I just hope that everyone sees measurable snow tonight so we can stop all this talk of winter weather...

There's also still Friday into Saturday!
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#5835 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:13 pm

dhweather wrote:Just read Cavanaugh's AFD - it is weather stuff.


Wow! :double: I feel like I should bow down on my knees and say, "I'M NOT WORTHY!"
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I had to re read portions of that discussion several times that confused me. Reading Cavanaugh's discussions makes me realize how very little I know about how weather patterns work.

Hampshire's AFD this morning out of EWX was also a good read.

Good stuff! :cheesy:
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#5836 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:20 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:
dhweather wrote:Just read Cavanaugh's AFD - it is weather stuff.


Wow! :double: I feel like I should bow down on my knees and say, "I'M NOT WORTHY!"
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I had to re read portions of that discussion several times that confused me. Reading Cavanaugh's discussions makes me realize how very little I know about how weather patterns work.

Hampshire's AFD this morning out of EWX was also a good read.

Good stuff! :cheesy:

Link?
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#5837 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:22 pm

The update from 6:00am this morning.
http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
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#5838 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:29 pm

Is this storm in the RAP timeframe yet?
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#5839 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:31 pm

Our local OCM Tim Heller explained what happened in Huntsville......About the snow but not snow...

A little meteorology lesson for you this morning. The precipitation that fell in Huntsville last night was a special kind of snow called "snow grains."

I along with other meteorologists was puzzled by the reports of snow because an upper air analysis collected by meteorology students at nearby Texas A&M University showed a very warm layer of air aloft, which should have melted the snow before it hit the ground.

Chris Hebert from Impact Weather solved the mystery:

"Looking at the vertical temperature profile, it doesn’t support snow as we normally think of snow. But it does support something similar – snow grains. Snow grains are tiny ice crystals (not snow “flakes”) that can form within low stratus clouds in that shallow sub-freezing layer above Huntsville. Individual snow grains typically measure <1mm in size, smaller than sleet. However, I imagine that as snow grains collide with each other on the way down they can grow into larger clusters that give the appearance of large snowflakes."

To see video of the "snow grains" click here: http://abc13.co/1LCsrei
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#5840 Postby wxman57 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:34 pm

The NAM and GFS have different opinions as to where the snow will fall overnight. The NAM is farther north, to include more of the D-FW Metroplex. The GFS is mostly south of D-FW:

12Z NAM:
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12Z GFS:
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