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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7021 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:51 pm

Cpv17 wrote:I’m pretty sure last week you guys were saying the Euro weeklies were looking great for us for February and now all of a sudden they aren’t? If that’s the case I wouldn’t put too much stock into the Euro weeklies.

I was thinking the same thing. Just a few days ago things were looking great and seemed to be on track.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7022 Postby Quixotic » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:58 pm

The weeklies seem to be all over the place with that ridge. I think it will be further west than depicted. Just off the coast is good for a Central trough.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7023 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:03 am

Cpv17 wrote:I’m pretty sure last week you guys were saying the Euro weeklies were looking great for us for February and now all of a sudden they aren’t? If that’s the case I wouldn’t put too much stock into the Euro weeklies.



Yea, the Euro weeklies are at times what the GFS is at 384 hours showing that Cat 5 in the Gulf or blizzard over Austin. Once in a blue moon they might be right this far out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7024 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:04 am

We must have been the cold spot in the area. 22 this morning per my weather station and another online station a few miles away.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7025 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:57 am

I don't know how well the Weather Channel performs on their extended forecasts but as of right now for February the northern half of the state is forecasted to be near or slightly above average temps and the southern half of the state to be above average temps. The trend continues into March with the northern half being above average and the southern half being much above average. Winter Cancel. :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7026 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:18 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:We must have been the cold spot in the area. 22 this morning per my weather station and another online station a few miles away.

Snuck in a bonus freeze at my house with 31.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7027 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:31 am

Light scattered frost on roof tops in NW Harris County from that "Pacific" front.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7028 Postby utweather » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:12 am

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:I’m pretty sure last week you guys were saying the Euro weeklies were looking great for us for February and now all of a sudden they aren’t? If that’s the case I wouldn’t put too much stock into the Euro weeklies.



Yea, the Euro weeklies are at times what the GFS is at 384 hours showing that Cat 5 in the Gulf or blizzard over Austin. Once in a blue moon they might be right this far out.


At 384 hours you're better off showing it having a heat wave and then you can go in an pick apart where it will be wrong and whats it missing. Better chances in my opinion you're likely to see the cold air it couldn't get a handle on rather than it showing a blizzard and it being completely off the other way. Reverse psychology with the long range models..
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7029 Postby orangeblood » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:52 am

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:I’m pretty sure last week you guys were saying the Euro weeklies were looking great for us for February and now all of a sudden they aren’t? If that’s the case I wouldn’t put too much stock into the Euro weeklies.



Yea, the Euro weeklies are at times what the GFS is at 384 hours showing that Cat 5 in the Gulf or blizzard over Austin. Once in a blue moon they might be right this far out.


We are only a little over a week out from Feb now, the weeklies a couple of weeks ago for Feb did look good for us...the Weeklies get more accurate as you get closer to the targeted dates, they are now trending towards more of a ++PNA look, which is typically not good for us

Rumblings on social media of Feb 2015 showing up as a good analog...for the southern plains, that month didn't really get cranking until the last week of Feb
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7030 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:33 am

Like I said yesterday, I'm not overly concerned with the Euro Weeklies. Past runs have been good for Texas and past runs have been bad for Texas. The biggest takeaway is that there isn't a prolonged torch in the cards and a return to colder weather is on the way. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the longer range models shift the core of the cold back west, if this holds:

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7031 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:34 am

Euro weeklies ... ppffff ... Euro-Schmuro. :roll:

We don't need that. We have wxman57 promising us winter action well before the last week of February. The smart money is on him because he's already produced (and then some) this winter season.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7032 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:37 am

And right on cue lol

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7033 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:37 am

GFS and CMC both are quite interesting late next week southern plains. Big shortwave
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7034 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:37 am

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Yukon Cornelius wrote:We must have been the cold spot in the area. 22 this morning per my weather station and another online station a few miles away.

Snuck in a bonus freeze at my house with 31.


it was 32 @ the house this morning, had a good frost on both cars and rooftops. :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7035 Postby orangeblood » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:40 am

bubba hotep wrote:Like I said yesterday, I'm not overly concerned with the Euro Weeklies. Past runs have been good for Texas and past runs have been bad for Texas. The biggest takeaway is that there isn't a prolonged torch in the cards and a return to colder weather is on the way. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the longer range models shift the core of the cold back west, if this holds:

https://image.ibb.co/fZso3b/4indices.png


If the PNA stays the course as shown, then I believe our chances increase dramatically...my biggest concern is that it has been very difficult to sustain a -PNA this winter
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7036 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:46 am

bubba hotep wrote:Like I said yesterday, I'm not overly concerned with the Euro Weeklies. Past runs have been good for Texas and past runs have been bad for Texas. The biggest takeaway is that there isn't a prolonged torch in the cards and a return to colder weather is on the way. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the longer range models shift the core of the cold back west, if this holds:

All four of those indicate a turn to colder and more unsettled weather to start Feb. We are in the middle of our January thaw and temps are in the 60s for a bit, love it. Canada is loading up on cold right now and this first batch looks to slide east, but ensembles show them aiming down the Plains thereafter.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7037 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:47 am

The 12z GFS is oh so close for Texas. It would still be a pretty decent storm for me, but a storm further south(but not suppressed) would likely benefit us both.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7038 Postby wxman22 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:50 am

Yep the 12z Gfs and Canadian look very similar around the beginning of the month, both look very close to showing a winter storm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7039 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:54 am

Another ice/snow day in the works, at 324-336 hours per GFS? :D

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7040 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:09 pm

srainhoutx wrote:Light scattered frost on roof tops in NW Harris County from that "Pacific" front.

Didn't notice any frost at my place, but 38.5f is plenty cool enough for a low thank you.
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