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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7661 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:44 pm

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:
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Lagreeneyes03 wrote:So if we've got a cancelled "winter" (winter precip and the like)
what does that mean for late "calendar winter" (early march) severe weather? Maybe we can get some rain?


Post second year Nina. Heat and drought will grow as the year goes unless the Pacific comes to the rescue. History says slim chance.

The drought is real, drought begets more drought.

We joke around about dry cold but the dry conditions have been since Harvey hit. I made posts about how historical cases have extended droughts after a big hurricane hits Texas in the summer and fall threads.


So a sparse severe storm season then? I have a feeling then by your comments the cap will be there, and strong. I remember seeing things earlier saying we'd have an active tornado season, but that's one thing I can do without. I was driving through Canton, TX during the tornadoes in April and it was horrifying and scary.


Big severe seasons come from big western troughs digging out often. We can't even get one to dig, and they are staples of Ninas. I have no clue what severe season will be like, just that the odds of a wet spring is not a good bet from the current players
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7662 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:54 pm

Ntxw, i will hang on until mid Feb and then I will throw in the towel. I want to see how this pv split or SSW works out. If it don't, then at that point it's probably game over. Srainhoustx said watch the teleconnections next week and if they change, then we may be in good shape
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7663 Postby wxman22 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:32 pm

0z CMC still looks interesting.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7664 Postby wxman22 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:35 pm

GFS shows the system also

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7665 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:39 pm

:uarrow: Yeah 0z GFS and Canadian look interesting for late next week. Hope the Euro comes on board in a few hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7666 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:56 pm

omg a system in the WEST :eek: :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7667 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:05 am

The AO/NAM region seems to reshuffle late on the GFS. It clogs the wavelengths and changes the pattern some. Perhaps hints of strat changes?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7668 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:17 am

Ntxw wrote:The AO/NAM region seems to reshuffle late on the GFS. It clogs the wavelengths and changes the pattern some. Perhaps hints of strat changes?


Ntxw, what is the NAM? Or did u mean nao?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7669 Postby Brent » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:55 am

Euro looks a bit colder(nothing major) but no precip that I can see
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7670 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:13 am

Punxsutawney Phil sees his shadow, 6 more weeks of winter.

Question now is...does wxman57 see his shadow?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7671 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:25 am

hamburgerman7070 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The AO/NAM region seems to reshuffle late on the GFS. It clogs the wavelengths and changes the pattern some. Perhaps hints of strat changes?


Ntxw, what is the NAM? Or did u mean nao?


Northern Annular Mode. Conjuction of AO/NAO and the broader Northern Hemisphere variations
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7672 Postby orangeblood » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:50 am

Ntxw wrote:
Lagreeneyes03 wrote:So if we've got a cancelled "winter" (winter precip and the like)
what does that mean for late "calendar winter" (early march) severe weather? Maybe we can get some rain?


Post second year Nina. Heat and drought will grow as the year goes unless the Pacific comes to the rescue. History says slim chance.

The drought is real, drought begets more drought.

We joke around about dry cold but the dry conditions have been since Harvey hit. I made posts about how historical cases have extended droughts after a big hurricane hits Texas in the summer and fall threads.


Here are the years where the Pacific came to the rescue with an El nino off a nina sometimes back to back. They definitely look more appealing during the summer months

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It does have some model support as well

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7673 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 am

:uarrow: The biggest drawback from that is, we came off a Super El Nino in 2015-2016. The two other Supers of the 20th century dipped to a third cold ENSO per ONI. 1983-1985, 1998-2000. Given sample size is small. Significant drought accompanied both periods
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7674 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:52 am

Ntxw wrote:Punxsutawney Phil sees his shadow, 6 more weeks of winter.

Question now is...does wxman57 see his shadow?


I saw my shadow! Enjoy your last 6 weeks of winter...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7675 Postby utweather » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:01 am

wxman57 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Punxsutawney Phil sees his shadow, 6 more weeks of winter.

Question now is...does wxman57 see his shadow?


I saw my shadow! Enjoy your last 6 weeks of winter...


lol, wouldn't surprise me. Time to adapt. I did have a love hate relationship with the cold though. It was nice to have, but just felt cold - grrrr. I will hate the heat soon enough though so yes 6 weeks to enjoy!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7676 Postby Tejas89 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:22 am

January was almost dead-on normal temp-wise at DFW. -.01 mean. Just reinforces how hard it is to get a below normal month these days lol.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7677 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:56 am

Pretty cold in Houston in January. Significant ice storm on the 16th. Couple of light snow events. Most significant winter we've had in many years.

STATION: HOUSTON INTERCONTINENTAL
MONTH: JANUARY
YEAR: 2018
LATITUDE: 29 58 N
LONGITUDE: 95 21 W

[TEMPERATURE DATA] [PRECIPITATION DATA] SYMBOLS USED IN COLUMN 16

AVERAGE MONTHLY: 48.7 TOTAL FOR MONTH: 3.06
DPTR FM NORMAL: -4.5 DPTR FM NORMAL: -0.32
HIGHEST: 75 ON 21
LOWEST: 19 ON 17
SNOW, ICE PELLETS, HAIL
TOTAL MONTH: 0.1 INCH
GRTST 24HR 0.1 ON 16-16
GRTST DEPTH: 0

[NO. OF DAYS WITH] [WEATHER - DAYS WITH]
MAX 32 OR BELOW: 0 0.01 INCH OR MORE: 9
MAX 90 OR ABOVE: 0 0.10 INCH OR MORE: 5
MIN 32 OR BELOW: 10 0.50 INCH OR MORE: 3
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7678 Postby orangeblood » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:02 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7679 Postby Portastorm » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:25 pm

Looking back at January 2018 for Austin, we were very dry and cold. The airport averaged a mean temp 2.6 below normal while Mabry averaged 1.7 below normal. Precip deficit compared to normal totals was about 1.95" below normal.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#7680 Postby JDawg512 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:10 pm

My impatience is growing. January was not good at all for moisture. We are already seeing fires break out, let's be clear though, it's not just the drier soils, these hard freezes killing, drying and browning vegitation are exacerbating the problem and it will only get worse.
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