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#8081 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:53 pm

txagwxman wrote:Where are you getting those temps from? The latest NAM?
Yes and then I fudge them to what I think will happen. Been calling this all day long...but no one seems to believe me.[/quote]

Txagwxman, I've also been keeping track of your posts throughout the day. This is starting to scare me more as the evening progresses.
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#8082 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:54 pm

SATELLITE PRECIPITATION ESTIMATES..DATE/TIME 02/09/11 0229Z
SATELLITE ANALYSIS BRANCH/NESDIS---NPPU---TEL.301-763-8678
LATEST DATA USED: GOES-13 0215Z JANKOT
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LOCATION...MISSOURI...ARKANSAS...TEXAS...OKLAHOMA...
LOCATION...KANSAS...NEW MEXICO...
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ATTN WFOS...LZK...SGF...EAX...TSA...TOP...ICT...OUN...DDC...LUB...
ATTN WFOS...AMA...MAF...ABQ...
ATTN RFCS...LMRFC...MBRFC...ABRFC...WGRFC...
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EVENT...HEAVY SNOW SHIFTS SE INTO TX PANHANDLE ENE THROUGH OK INTO SE KS
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SATELLITE ANALYSIS AND TRENDS...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW
OVERALL TROF AXIS PROGRESSING EAST WITH HIGHLY DIFFLUENT UL PATTERN OVER
DISCUSSION REGION. IR IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW BAROCLINIC LEAF SATELLITE
SIGNATURE OVER N OK/S KS WHERE HEAVY SNOW IS SITUATED. HEAVIEST SNOW IS
ON A WSW TO ENE AXIS FROM TX PANHANDLE THROUGH N OK INTO EXTREME S KS
UNDER THE SE EDGE OF ENHANCEMENT IN LEAF SATELLITE STRUCTURE. IR IMAGERY
HAS ALSO SHOWN BETTER ENHANCEMENT OVER TX PANHANDLE INTO W OK AND EXPECT
SNOWFALL TO DECREASE OVER S KS AND A GENERAL FOCUS OF BEST BANDING OVER
TX PANHANDLE INTO N OK. HEAVY SNOW HAS FORMED IN SHARP BAROCLINIC ZONE
WITH OVER 50 DEG F TEMP GRADIENT FROM N TX N TO S KS IN CONJUNCTION WITH
SOUTHERLY WAA AT 85H PER RUC/VWP'S. EXPECT SNOWFALL RATES OF 1-2"/HR TO
CONTINUE FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 3 HOURS.
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SHORT TERM OUTLOOK VALID 0230-0530Z...HIGH CONFIDENCE FACTOR IN SHORT
TERM OUTLOOK...HEAVY SNOW SHOULD CONTINUE FROM TX PANHANDLE ENE THROUGH
SE KS FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 3-6 HOURS WITH RATES IN THE 1-2"/HR IN
BEST BANDING MORE FOCUSED OVER TX PANHANDLE/OK. WITH AREAS IN KS SEEING
AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF 12 INCHES TODAY THE SITUATION SHOULD BE MONITORED
CLOSELY TO SEE WHERE BEST BANDING
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8083 Postby wall_cloud » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:54 pm

TrekkerCC wrote:
kb75007 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:This DFW temperature forecast from the NWS might be in jeopardy.

Wednesday: Snow, mainly before noon. Temperature falling to around 19 by 5pm. Wind chill values between 6 and 16. Windy, with a north northwest wind between 15 and 25 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.


Do you not think it will get that cold or do you think it will get colder?


If the front gets to DFW quicker (by 1am to 3am) than what the model projects, we could be in the mid-teens by 5PM tomorrow.

This is not a forecast, just speculation on what a faster front will do to the temperatures.


15 vs 19...I'm not sure that its a big deal given the circumstances. If my forecast was in jeopardy by only being off 4 degrees following an arctic fropa, I'd by quite happy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8084 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:59 pm

wall_cloud wrote:15 vs 19...I'm not sure that its a big deal given the circumstances. If my forecast was in jeopardy by only being off 4 degrees following an arctic fropa, I'd by quite happy.


It isn't, but the grid forecast from FW has 30 by 7am. Teens and 30 is a very big difference especially with frozen precip falling/fallen :wink: :P
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#8085 Postby DonWrk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:00 pm

Last few loops of the current radar start showing that heavy band over Amarillo starting to expand pretty good. Anyone else see that?
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8086 Postby wall_cloud » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:00 pm

I guess I misunderstood your point. I thought you were talking about the 5 pm comparison. I gotcha now 8-)
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#8087 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:01 pm

DonWrk wrote:Last few loops of the current radar start showing that heavy band over Amarillo starting to expand pretty good. Anyone else see that?


Additionally, even SJT is seeing the front as we speak!

I hope someone from there can confirm!
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#8088 Postby kb75007 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:04 pm

Does anyone remember that map everyone was looking at last monday night when the front came through? It was an Oklahoma map, it had temps and colors along with it?
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#8089 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:05 pm

kb75007 wrote:Does anyone remember that map everyone was looking at last monday night when the front came through? It was an Oklahoma map, it had temps and colors along with it?


http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/zoa/mwmap2.php?map=zfw
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8090 Postby TrekkerCC » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:06 pm

wall_cloud wrote:
TrekkerCC wrote:If the front gets to DFW quicker (by 1am to 3am) than what the model projects, we could be in the mid-teens by 5PM tomorrow.

This is not a forecast, just speculation on what a faster front will do to the temperatures.


15 vs 19...I'm not sure that its a big deal given the circumstances. If my forecast was in jeopardy by only being off 4 degrees following an arctic fropa, I'd by quite happy.


Well, given that the temperature is down to 9F and light snow being reported in Childress, TX, I think you could very well be right that we will be significantly colder than mid-teens by tomorrow afternoon in DFW area. But I guess I'm just being conservative here in my speculation.

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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8091 Postby gboudx » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:07 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:Based on that map Texas is coming to an end, well it was nice knowing all you.... :sled:


Dennis Quaid is from TX. This trip should be shorter for him than going to NYC. ;)
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#8092 Postby iorange55 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:09 pm

gboudx wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:Based on that map Texas is coming to an end, well it was nice knowing all you.... :sled:


Dennis Quaid is from TX. This trip should be shorter for him than going to NYC. ;)



Lol. Took me a minute to get the reference, but if we were in Amarillo right now we would be thinking it was the end of the world.
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#8093 Postby DonWrk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:09 pm

kb75007 wrote:Does anyone remember that map everyone was looking at last monday night when the front came through? It was an Oklahoma map, it had temps and colors along with it?


http://www.mesonet.org/index.php/weathe ... emperature
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8095 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:10 pm

Most recent runs of the HRRR don't seem to have this system figured out. I think we're gonna have to use old tactics to pin this one. I don't personally believe any of the models currently have this right.
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#8096 Postby Metalicwx220 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:11 pm

downsouthman1 wrote:
txagwxman wrote:Where are you getting those temps from? The latest NAM?
Yes and then I fudge them to what I think will happen. Been calling this all day long...but no one seems to believe me.


Txagwxman, I've also been keeping track of your posts throughout the day. This is starting to scare me more as the evening progresses.[/quote]
Im confused. Whats happening? LOL
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8097 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:12 pm

gboudx wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:Based on that map Texas is coming to an end, well it was nice knowing all you.... :sled:


Dennis Quaid is from TX. This trip should be shorter for him than going to NYC. ;)



A :froze: ye...
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8098 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:16 pm

From FW NWS: THE COLD FRONT IS SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND HAVE ADJUSTED THE
TIMING UP ABOUT AN HOUR OR TWO TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS AND HAVE ALSO
INCREASED WIND SPEEDS SLIGHTLY BASED ON CURRENT OBSERVATIONS
BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. IN THE METROPLEX...THESE STRONG WINDS WILL
LIKELY CREATE BLOWING SNOW CONDITIONS DURING THE EARLY MORNING
HOURS. IT APPEARS THAT THE WINTER PRECIP WILL END FASTER IN THE
AFTERNOON...AROUND 19Z. BEST THINKING IS STILL THAT THE PRECIP
WILL BEGIN AS RAIN IN THE METROPLEX AND QUICKLY TRANSITION TO
SNOW. FROZEN PRECIPITATION IS MORE LIKELY AROUND THE WACO AREA
WITH SOME SNOW MIXING IN.
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#8099 Postby DFW Stormwatcher » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:18 pm

I wish I could figure out how to attach my phone video to here, it's crazy here in Amarillo. Whiteout conditions....dps and sheriff's troopers patrolling up and down 40 with their lights on. Snow plows the only other trucks out there here in the city, probably much worse out in the outlying areas. Snow drifts starting to form.

Current air temp -1, wind chill around -25 atm.
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#8100 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:19 pm

DFW Stormwatcher wrote:I wish I could figure out how to attach my phone video to here, it's crazy here in Amarillo. Whiteout conditions....dps and sheriff's troopers patrolling up and down 40 with their lights on. Snow plows the only other trucks out there here in the city, probably much worse out in the outlying areas. Snow drifts starting to form.


Web cams tomorrow morning will look very impressive, IMO.
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