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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8121 Postby orangeblood » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:02 am

Ntxw wrote:You can add the UKMET into the mix. Looks some like the Euro through Thursday quite cold with wintry precip beforehand. GFS is the outlier at the moment.


GFS definite outlier (typical). UKMET aligned with the Euro but even colder. Temps in the mid-teens by Wednesday evening with moderate snow/sleet/frz rain

The cold is coming, not too worried about that variable...it's the s/w that is going to take awhile for the models to figure out particularly as to how it interacts with the Polar Jet feature across the northern US

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8122 Postby wxman22 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:07 am

There’s decent support for a storm on the 0z EPS.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8123 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:10 am

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:You can add the UKMET into the mix. Looks some like the Euro through Thursday quite cold with wintry precip beforehand. GFS is the outlier at the moment.


GFS definite outlier (typical). UKMET aligned with the Euro but even colder. Temps in the mid-teens by Wednesday evening with moderate snow/sleet/frz rain

The cold is coming, not too worried about that variable...it's the s/w that is going to take awhile for the models to figure out particularly as to how it interacts with the Polar Jet feature across the northern US

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Waiting for the GFS to cave. I would make the argument for many of us this likely is the coldest shot of the winter. The precursors have aligned that in the past tells us to look for it. You have the MJO in the right spot in February, an AO that gets near or past -5 almost always delivers in DJF. Some are concerned that the EPO isn't negative enough, but it is negative and has been for a long period of time. There is cold up there already loaded from the -EPO. There is currently a near 1060mb high in the Beaufort funneling cold into Canada!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8124 Postby orangeblood » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:12 am

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:You can add the UKMET into the mix. Looks some like the Euro through Thursday quite cold with wintry precip beforehand. GFS is the outlier at the moment.


GFS definite outlier (typical). UKMET aligned with the Euro but even colder. Temps in the mid-teens by Wednesday evening with moderate snow/sleet/frz rain

The cold is coming, not too worried about that variable...it's the s/w that is going to take awhile for the models to figure out particularly as to how it interacts with the Polar Jet feature across the northern US

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ukmo-all/tx/t850_mslp_prcp6hr/1739404800/1740009600-EINadNmw8Ng.png
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ukmo-all/tx/t2m_f/1739404800/1740009600-v16FeZEI2p4.png


Waiting for the GFS to cave. I would make the argument for many of us this likely is the coldest shot of the winter. The precursors have aligned that in the past tells us to look for it. You have the MJO in the right spot in February, an AO that gets near or past -5 almost always delivers in DJF. Some are concerned that the EPO isn't negative enough, but it is negative and has been for a long period of time. There is cold up there already loaded from the -EPO.


Agreed, GFS isn't even in the ballpark of the other globals at the moment but would imagine it will cave soon.

Haven't seen this type of cold from the Euro inside 6 days in long time, didn't even have this extreme cold during Feb 2021 (Euro and GFS were really slow to the party during that event). This is at noon on Wednesday, wild!!

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8125 Postby Snowman67 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:19 am

WxMan 57- can you please provide an update on the integrity of the wall? Will it be able to hold up next week?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8126 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:20 am

Snowman67 wrote:WxMan 57- can you please provide an update on the integrity of the wall? Will it be able to hold up next week?


He might be busy packing his bags getting ready to head south.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8127 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:23 am

How often do we get a -4SD negative AO in DJF? Not often at all. Dec '22 was the last time, if we get to -5 that's Feb 2021. Before that you'd have to go all the way back to 2010.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8128 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:39 am

So what's a weeks difference to mother nature from our coldest ever temp recorded at DFW.

I'm not saying next week the hammer will drop, but does 1 week later really matter for a potential historic cold snap?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8129 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:43 am

HockeyTx82 wrote:So what's a weeks difference to mother nature from our coldest ever temp recorded at DFW.

I'm not saying next week the hammer will drop, but does 1 week later really matter for a potential historic cold snap?


Realistically we can get that cold. In fact single digits is even possible into early March for areas I-20 on north (10F 1943). The argument is climo but with the right delivery pattern and cold source it can happen.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8130 Postby nathanc1969 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:44 am

From the San Angelo FD:

We will see warmer temperatures again on Monday and Tuesday ahead
of the next upper level system. The last cold front to move
through the area next Tuesday into Tuesday night will be the
strongest. The current forecast has highs ranging from the mid 30s
to lower 40s for Wednesday, but there are indications in long
range model data that we could be even colder than that. There is
a low chance for some light precipitation associated with the cold
front next week, which would be in the form of a wintry mix. The
potential for very cold temperatures and wintry precipitation
should be monitored through the next several days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8131 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:51 am

Kind of wild to see it happen, after watching the EPO and Scandinavian ridge link up and now moving to HB.

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Ntxw wrote:We can work with a weaker EPO, 2021 was not that impressive EPO wise. If you want a miniature delayed version of that, you'd want the -AO placement over Hudson Bay and the Davis Straits.


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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8132 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:51 am

Made it down to 14 with a winchill of 6.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8133 Postby Ralph's Weather » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:17 am

We made 24 this morning. SHV has introduced snow to the forecast next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8134 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:19 am

12z ICON looks like it's setting up again for another cold delivery run. That lagging S/W in the west is helping to produce blizzard conditions in Kansas/Oklahoma along that front.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8135 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:23 am

WF goes from near 40 to 10F next weds during the day on the run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8136 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:28 am

Lastly shortwave kicks out and snow/ice inside the deep cold air for some in the state with fluff.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8137 Postby orangeblood » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:30 am

Ntxw wrote:12z ICON looks like it's setting up again for another cold delivery run. That lagging S/W in the west is helping to produce blizzard conditions in Kansas/Oklahoma along that front.


High ratios snow with temps in the lower teens on Wednesday evening then approaching all time record low territory

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8138 Postby TropicalTundra » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:32 am

Ntxw wrote:Lastly shortwave kicks out and snow/ice inside the deep cold air for some in the state with fluff.


I just need one good snow event. Just one. Don't care if it's a nice coating or 2'+. Just need something
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8139 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:38 am

Glad we are making the Costco run tonight. Timing is perfect.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8140 Postby jasons2k » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:39 am

Getting concerned about another hard freeze down here.
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