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#8581 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:19 am

CaptinCrunch wrote:warming trend to continue through the next 7-10 days, warm pacific air to make it's way across the entire country by next weekend.

Nothing on the map as far a another winter event here in NTX till maybe around the 26th, and thats a BIG maybe.

Wow, the 26th. That is an eternity. Maybe we could get some rain showers in between. Outside of snow and ice, this area has had no wet weather at all. Late Feb has had winter for us before but who knows?
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#8582 Postby txagwxman » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:52 am

pwrdog wrote:
tugreenie wrote:It's snowing very lightly this morning around lake livingston.... Cool!

little lake effect...
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Maybe... sure didn't expect it..


Just asking, how can you get a lake effect flurry off of such a small lake. If that is the case, why don't they get lake effect flurries off of Lake Pontchartrain to the north of New Orleans?? Just curious.[/quote]

There was some lake effect snow in the rio grande valley last week..

Here you go...

Lake effect snow in East Texas?
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13955338[/quote]

They had lake effect last week on Lake Zapata in extreme S. Texas....NWS Brownsville had a write up about it, and had pictures of the snow cover.Image

I like the way they misspelled phenomenon. :cheesy:
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#8583 Postby jerryh421 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:12 am

Jarodm12 wrote:day 12 looks intresting gfs, models def showing a possible patter change once again day 10 day 12 see if this trend continues until the higher res


What about the other models?
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#8584 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:54 am

12Z GFS is just showing a passing storm system across the Central to Southern Plains around the 25th of the month, dropping some snow in KS/NE but keeping temps above freezing across most of TX in its wake. Post frontal airmass looks mostly Pacific with a little modified Canadian air.
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#8585 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:08 pm

Ntxw, with the warming off the Pacific Ocean starting, does that mean El Nino could be returning next winter?
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#8586 Postby txagwxman » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:58 pm

ECMWF has a shallow Arctic front into Texas day 10...winter ain't over. :wink:

With freezing drizzle/precip Abilene.
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#8587 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:07 pm

txagwxman wrote:ECMWF has a shallow Arctic front into Texas day 10...winter ain't over. :wink:

With freezing drizzle/precip Abilene.


240hr hasn't loaded yet on Penn State's ewall, though the 216hr map is there. Are you looking at that low res shot on the ecmwf model site? From the day 9 panel, it's looking like the main cold may push east rather than south to the Gulf coast. At least, I hope it pushes east rather than south.

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#8588 Postby txagwxman » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:08 pm

wxman57 wrote:
txagwxman wrote:ECMWF has a shallow Arctic front into Texas day 10...winter ain't over. :wink:

With freezing drizzle/precip Abilene.


240hr hasn't loaded yet on Penn State's ewall. Are you looking at that low res shot on the ecmwf model site? From the day 9 panel, it's looking like the main cold may push east rather than south to the Gulf coast.

I get it from somewhere else...

2m temps are 30F Abilene day 10 with precip...it would be a very, very shallow front.
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#8589 Postby Portastorm » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:09 pm

txagwxman wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
txagwxman wrote:ECMWF has a shallow Arctic front into Texas day 10...winter ain't over. :wink:

With freezing drizzle/precip Abilene.


240hr hasn't loaded yet on Penn State's ewall. Are you looking at that low res shot on the ecmwf model site? From the day 9 panel, it's looking like the main cold may push east rather than south to the Gulf coast.

I get it from somewhere else...

2m temps are 30F Abilene day 10 with precip...


Psshaw! The Portastorm Weather Center says winter is over south of Fort Hood. The Magic 8-ball said so. :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8590 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:14 pm

240 hr is in now. It does look like the main push is east rather than south. 850mb freeze line isn't advancing much south through OK from days 9-10:
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#8591 Postby txagwxman » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:26 pm

As a test last night I put a data logging therm inside my head cover for my outdoor faucets:

my actual low temp was 21F, inside the head cover with blankets around it got to 29F!

So it still got to freezing.
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#8592 Postby txagwxman » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:03 pm

wxman57 wrote:240 hr is in now. It does look like the main push is east rather than south. 850mb freeze line isn't advancing much south through OK from days 9-10:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... z/f240.gif

Whatever that is, it will be short-lived.
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#8593 Postby Metalicwx220 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:17 pm

Image Lol snow in phoenix
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#8594 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:28 pm

Though the Euro does show a front in Texas on the 21st, temps behind it are not very cold. Yeah, 30 in Abilene but only 20 in Amarillo and 15 in northern Kansas with below-zero temps in the Dakotas spreading east into Minnesota. To put that 20 in Amarillo perspective, an air parcel reduced to sea level (Houston) dry-adiabatically from Amarillo's elevation would experience a 20F degree rise. So the 20F low in Amarillo would equate to a 40F deg low in Houston post-frontal (if it makes it to Houston). I believe the factor for Abilene is around +12F to convert Abilene's temperature to a Houston (sea level) temperature.
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#8595 Postby Turtle » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:07 pm

Look at the temp departure for Texas!

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#8596 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:26 pm

It's amazing to think how all of that has the opportunity to get wiped out back to average by the end of the month! Shows you how much it takes to get cold in these parts and how easy it is to warm things up.

DFW Airport never got to single digits throughout the entire event(s) but one wouldn't know it if they went through it. Craziest 10 days of winter for me (3 snow/ice events in a week (plus a day) and so many missed school days.
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#8597 Postby downsouthman1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:13 pm

Ntxw wrote:It's amazing to think how all of that has the opportunity to get wiped out back to average by the end of the month! Shows you how much it takes to get cold in these parts and how easy it is to warm things up.

DFW Airport never got to single digits throughout the entire event(s) but one wouldn't know it if they went through it. Craziest 10 days of winter for me (3 snow/ice events in a week (plus a day) and so many missed school days.


Ya. This change of pace feels quite good. We only got to like 39 or so yesterday & I was lamenting how good it felt outside. Today, we're back in the 50s. Tomorrow, 60s. Sunday & for the foreseeable future, 70s. I'm glad. But I'm still looking over my shoulder for Old Man Winter's return with a vengence.
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#8598 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:02 pm

downsouthman1 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:It's amazing to think how all of that has the opportunity to get wiped out back to average by the end of the month! Shows you how much it takes to get cold in these parts and how easy it is to warm things up.

DFW Airport never got to single digits throughout the entire event(s) but one wouldn't know it if they went through it. Craziest 10 days of winter for me (3 snow/ice events in a week (plus a day) and so many missed school days.


Ya. This change of pace feels quite good. We only got to like 39 or so yesterday & I was lamenting how good it felt outside. Today, we're back in the 50s. Tomorrow, 60s. Sunday & for the foreseeable future, 70s. I'm glad. But I'm still looking over my shoulder for Old Man Winter's return with a vengence.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday when we got up to 40F. We're expecting about the same or a little warmer here in Houston. But like you :uarrow:
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#8599 Postby Jarodm12 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:26 am

well i would say, that we should prepare for a very active severe weather season here in texas. which will be alot of fun but i hope no one gets hurt
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#8600 Postby wxman57 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:00 am

Jarodm12 wrote:well i would say, that we should prepare for a very active severe weather season here in texas. which will be a lot of fun but i hope no one gets hurt


We'll see. Last winter was quite cold on average. This winter has been colder but for shorter periods. There wasn't much of a severe weather season last year in Texas in big part because the western Gulf had been chilled so much during the winter that moisture was severely limited. This year, the western Gulf is even colder than last year. That may limit heat/moisture transfer from the Gulf to TX/OK this spring.
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