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#9301 Postby Tireman4 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:53 pm

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gpsnowman wrote:I consider anything in March extra bonus, don't expect it but certainly love it. What amazes me more than anything is the fact that it is 20 degrees currently in GP. How far will it go tonight? Amazing for early March.


20 on a March afternoon at that! We're just so accustomed to strange cold this year to understand but in a few years we will look back and go, omg it did that in March???


Or could this be the new norm? Hummm
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#9302 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:53 pm

Had a high of 93 earlier this afternoon.....tomorrow that will be a distant memory lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9303 Postby Texas Snowman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:00 pm

With two or three weeks of climatological opportunity left, here's what remains on my 2014 winter wish list:

* For DFW to get near it's all-time record for number of sub-freezing low temperature readings.
* For one good, surprise snow storm (snow, not sleet, not ice) to envelop the state.
* For Portastorm to FINALLY be rewarded this winter.
* And perhaps, with a little luck, to reach 500 pages on this thread for the winter of 2013-14.

After that, let's move on to blue bonnets, spring thunderstorms and rains, and bass fishing weather!
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#9304 Postby Texas Snowman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:02 pm

Told Ntxw about this idea earlier today.

For next winter, I propose a new index on Storm2K's "Texas Winter Weather" thread.

Let's call it the "WLL Index."

What's that you ask? Why it's the "Wxman57 Laying Low" Index!

The more he lays low, the bigger a winter weather event is and will be! :D
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#9305 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:03 pm

ronyan wrote:How do you view the MOS guidance Ntxw?


Here you go

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/synop/products.php

GFS (MAV) and NAM (MET) are the two you want. I like to use station list and just select the sites you want > submit and voila

Tireman4 wrote:Or could this be the new norm? Hummm


Could be! Lets have some of this 2-3 SD's cold in the summer, how about that? Maybe Toba will erupt and we can go a year without a summer or perpetual winter! One can dream.

D'Aleo did a thing on the dalton and maunder minimums (we are heading towards a big minimum that began around 08). Those periods saw a shift in the growing zones. What occurs in Iowa today is climate for Arkansas. Probably something cool to dig into this summer!
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#9306 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:06 pm

I measured nearly 2 inches of sleet on the grass and over half an inch on the road with the last band still dropping more, even measured over drifting against the building. Temp has fallen into the low 20s already. Most fell in the last two hours and had lots of lighting and the wind made it really sting on bare skin. An amazing storm.
May see 15 or lower tonight and with all the ice on the ground it will struggle to rise much above freezing tomorrow to melt what we got before maybe some more Tuesday. This has been an amazing winter though I thought we were going to end up missing out on any major event only to get this in March.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9307 Postby orangeblood » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:11 pm

Ntxw wrote:
katheria wrote:latest winter precip in dfw that i could find on record was april 14 1928 with a trace of snow...

just a fun fact


Hey hey now don't you be getting ideas into their heads! You can't reveal such things until it is time! ;) just kidding.

Spring is coming, enjoy the cold because it's probably the last time we see teens this winter. EPO is going to be positive once this week is over.


Not according to the Euro Control Run, takes EPO into the tank once again next week
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9308 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:20 pm

orangeblood wrote:Not according to the Euro Control Run, takes EPO into the tank once again next week


I just saw that. I'm going to be cautiously optimistic on it for now. It still doesn't look like any significant warm pattern still below average. ENS do try to rebuild some heights over Western NA so that's probably a flag and given the fact these ridges loves to rebuild to Alaska it's no surprise. I'll wait for a stronger signal before embracing the run.

SOI is negative both daily and 30 day. Got to watch digging cut off lows or ones that comes out of the southwest.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9309 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:23 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
katheria wrote:latest winter precip in dfw that i could find on record was april 14 1928 with a trace of snow...

just a fun fact


Hey hey now don't you be getting ideas into their heads! You can't reveal such things until it is time! ;) just kidding.

Spring is coming, enjoy the cold because it's probably the last time we see teens this winter. EPO is going to be positive once this week is over.


Not according to the Euro Control Run, takes EPO into the tank once again next week


Nothing would surprise me with this winter and it was only a few years ago we had snow in April. It is amazing how this winter had made us think of lows in the 20s and even teens as normal. Now we just need a decent snow to top it off though today sure looks like site out there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9310 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:39 pm

Euro control has another friend, the 18z GFS la la land significant block returns to Alaska on it. Wxman57 should've just gone to Alaska this winter, he would've had more warmth.

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#9311 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:42 pm

The 21Z SPC SREF continues to advertise freezing rain/sleet and possibly a snow flurry or two overnight before the precip ends. It is also noteworthy the the SREF is suggesting an expanded area freezing rain across all of Central Texas and Northern areas of SE Texas overnight tomorrow night into early Tuesday. Each run has expanded the aeral coverage of the potential event for tomorrow night. We will see if that trend continues.
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#9312 Postby Snowman67 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:49 pm

Was in Waco today. Between 3-4pm, i saw 5 or 6 accidents due to the freezing rain/sleet. They are supposed to have another round tomorrow night/Tuesday morning.
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#9313 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:58 pm

I know where wxman57 has been. He has been hard at work preparing his "I Love Winter" speech. IAH has a chance for sub-freezing temps tonight, I believe.
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#9314 Postby katheria » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:06 pm

im gonna go out on a limb here ....
know i dont post much, just read mainly... while i learn more and more...:)
and every time i think about jumping in i always get terms confused when i try and post and then i feel like a idiot

the pattern this winter has been unusual for sure compared to the last few years. only one year i can remember like this was 1989 in terms of cold...

i don't think we have seen the last of the strong cold fronts at all. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them all the way into early may
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#9315 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:19 pm

katheria wrote:im gonna go out on a limb here ....
know i dont post much, just read mainly... while i learn more and more...:)
and every time i think about jumping in i always get terms confused when i try and post and then i feel like a idiot

the pattern this winter has been unusual for sure compared to the last few years. only one year i can remember like this was 1989 in terms of cold...

i don't think we have seen the last of the strong cold fronts at all. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them all the way into early may


No such thing as a bad post!

I just wanted to say we have a great bunch here novice and pros alike. A lot of bright things were put forth during this event from looking at source regions, precip types, and everything else was quite impressive. Back several years ago I didn't know much of the terms either, I didn't even know how to look at the european from it's free site! A bunch of lines and numbers jargon yuck. We learn from the best wxman57, and Jeff. We make fun of him a lot but we love him dearly! Wherever he is right now...probably under heated blankets.
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#9316 Postby dhweather » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:21 pm

Shocking, Rockwall ISD cancelled classes tomorrow.
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#9317 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:25 pm

Last little batch of flurries and light snow coming through the metroplex. I see them out there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9318 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:35 pm

Light freezing drizzle has started in NW Harris County on elevated metal surfaces. My grill and patio furniture has a thin coating of ice forming. That makes 7 Winter Weather events for SE Texas this winter.
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#9319 Postby katheria » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:36 pm

dhweather wrote:Shocking, Rockwall ISD cancelled classes tomorrow.


that is shocking, dont think they got anymore than here... roads are gonna be dry by the morning.
garland wont cancel for sure....

Grand Prairie ISD says there will be no decision on a possible weather-related closing until Monday morning at 4:30. "At this time, plan on a regular school day," the district tweeted. - WFAA

The Dallas Independent School district just tweeted: "At this time, please expect a regular school day for Dallas ISD." They'll let us know if anything changes... sorry, kids! - WFAA
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9320 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:41 pm

srainhoutx wrote:Light freezing drizzle has started in NW Harris County on elevated metal surfaces. My grill and patio furniture has a thin coating of ice forming. That makes 7 Winter Weather events for SE Texas this winter.


That's impressive. Lets go for another one on Tuesday!

Bush (IAH) is forecasted by the NWS of 33. Will it be another close but no cigar for TeamPlayersBlue? NAM MOS is upper 20s.
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