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#9561 Postby Wntrwthrguy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:09 pm

Just saw a lightning strike light up the sky here in Hutto. These storms aren't messing around.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9562 Postby Texashawk » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:09 pm

wxman57 wrote:Going to be an interesting night in SE TX with dew points in the mid 20s and temps near freezing. How exciting! Another winter weather event! I only hope these freezing rain events continue through the spring.


If you can't beat 'em.... :-D
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#9563 Postby davidiowx » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:Going to be an interesting night in SE TX with dew points in the mid 20s and temps near freezing. How exciting! Another winter weather event! I only hope these freezing rain events continue through the spring.


Hahahaha. You are a joy to read.
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#9564 Postby davidiowx » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:13 pm

33.6F at my house with a dew point of 25F. Dew point has dropped a degree or two with the temp falling. Still wondering if this rain will bring temps down or hold them steady..
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#9565 Postby Cuda17 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:14 pm

Thundersleet here in Bellville! 30 degrees 24 dew point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9566 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:15 pm

wxman57 wrote:Going to be an interesting night in SE TX with dew points in the mid 20s and temps near freezing. How exciting! Another winter weather event! I only hope these freezing rain events continue through the spring.


I don't, I need at least a few severe weather events this spring, If its cold enough to freezing rain down there, than it would likely be to cold for severe weather up here.
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#9567 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:16 pm

davidiowx wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Going to be an interesting night in SE TX with dew points in the mid 20s and temps near freezing. How exciting! Another winter weather event! I only hope these freezing rain events continue through the spring.


Hahahaha. You are a joy to read.

Ahh man you are killing me...lool
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#9568 Postby ravyrn » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:20 pm

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wxman57 wrote:Going to be an interesting night in SE TX with dew points in the mid 20s and temps near freezing. How exciting! Another winter weather event! I only hope these freezing rain events continue through the spring.


I've literally cracked up at everyone of your posts today hahahaha


Yeah I intend to make a thread cataloging all of his funny posts today :D
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#9569 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:22 pm

TheProfessor wrote:I don't, I need at least a few severe weather events this spring,

Apparently you've never had a house or business destroyed or a friend or family member killed or injured in a storm. One is all it takes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9570 Postby dhweather » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:24 pm

In other news, the 18Z GFS has a CAT 5 IN THE GULF at 2688 hours! You KNOW it HAS to be right!

:wink:


Good luck tonight Porta - a good sleet would do you some good.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9571 Postby wxman57 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:27 pm

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TheProfessor wrote:I don't, I need at least a few severe weather events this spring,

Apparently you've never had a house or business destroyed or a friend or family member killed or injured in a storm. One is all it takes.


Severe storms and freezing rain events can be very dangerous. How about we wish for beneficial rainfall vs. severe storms? If the roads get icy overnight then there will likely be many serious traffic accidents. Stay off the road tonight/tomorrow if it's icy.
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#9572 Postby ndale » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:29 pm

EWX update: 912 PM CST MON MAR 3 2014

.UPDATE...
ADDED BANDERA AND MEDINA COUNTIES TO THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY
DUE TO POTENTIAL FOR SLEET FROM CONVECTION WHICH WOULD RESULT IN BRIEF
HEAVIER ACCUMULATIONS ON ROADS...ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGHER
ELEVATIONS OF THOSE COUNTIES. TEMPERATURES WERE AT FREEZING
ACROSS EASTERN WILLIAMSON...TRAVIS INTO LEE AND BASTROP COUNTIES
AT 9 PM...AND APPROACHING FREEZING ACROSS THE HILL COUNTRY AND NRN
SECTIONS OF S CENTRAL TX. ALTHOUGH COLD AIR ADVECTION IS WEAK...
EVAPORATIVE COOLING HAS ACCELERATED COOLING INTO THE MID 30S IN
LOCALIZED AREAS. HAVE ADDED MORE THUNDER/SLEET TO FORECAST FOR
TONIGHT IN ADDITION TO THE FREEZING RAIN. ONGOING ADVISORY AND
WINTER STORM AREAS LOOK GOOD FOR NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF BANDERA
AND MEDINA COUNTIES. WILL LET SHORT TERM FORECAST/SPECIAL WEATHER
STATENTS HANDLE MENTION OF SMALL ONE HALF INCH HAIL IN THE
ISOLATED STRONGER CELLS.

AFTER THIS INITIAL WAVE OF CONVECTION AHEAD OF THE UPPER
TROUGH...STILL EXPECT ANOTHER ROUND OF ELEVATED CONVECTION AFTER
MIDNIGHT WITH TEMPERATURES LOWERING TO AT OR BELOW FREEZING
ACROSS THE WARNING AND ADVISORY AREAS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9573 Postby Portastorm » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:31 pm

Well, this answers my concern regarding precip timing for SC Texas and whether or not this current disturbance would "rob" moisture from the vort max coming from the Big Bend.

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0170
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0923 PM CST MON MAR 03 2014

AREAS AFFECTED...S-CNTRL AND SE TX

CONCERNING...FREEZING RAIN

VALID 040323Z - 040830Z

SUMMARY...FREEZING RAIN THREAT WILL EXPAND SPATIALLY THROUGH LATE
EVENING AND EARLY TUE MORNING ACROSS S-CNTRL AND SE TX. RATES OF
0.05-0.1 INCH/HR WILL BE COMMON...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
POSSIBLE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THUNDERSTORMS.

DISCUSSION...SWATH OF CONVECTION EXTENDING FROM THE SRN HILL COUNTRY
EWD ALONG I-10 TO JUST W OF HOU APPEARS TO HAVE INITIATED IN
RESPONSE TO A WEAK UPPER IMPULSE OVER THE CENTRAL TX COAST /AS OF
03Z/...AND STRENGTHENING WAA REGIME ABOVE 2.5 KM AGL PRECEDING A
STRONGER VORT MAX APPROACHING THE BIG BEND. THIS IS OCCURRING MUCH
EARLIER THAN A MAJORITY OF 12Z/00Z MODEL GUIDANCE HAS
FORECAST...WITH EXCEPTION TO THE 12Z WRF-NSSL AND WRF-NMM
RUNS...WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE A SOMEWHAT REASONABLE DEPICTION OF
ONGOING ACTIVITY BUT ARE STILL SLOW WITH RESPECT TO OBSERVATIONS.

SFC OBS INDICATE TEMPERATURES ARE GENERALLY NEAR/ABOVE FREEZING
WHERE PRECIPITATION IS ONGOING CURRENTLY...WITH SFC FREEZING LINE
ANALYZED FROM NEAR TPL SEWD TO 20 N HOU AS OF 03Z. COMBINATION OF
WET-BULB COOLING /VIA ELEVATED CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION FALLING INTO
RELATIVELY DRIER SUB-CLOUD LAYER/...AND MODEST LOW-LEVEL CAA OUT OF
THE N/NE...SHOULD RESULT IN TEMPERATURES FALLING BELOW FREEZING OVER
THE NEXT 2-3 HRS ACROSS THE REGION. THIS WILL OCCUR
CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WITH A CONTINUED INCREASE IN FORCING FOR ASCENT AS
THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE IMPULSE MOVES OUT OF THE BIG BEND...AND
FACILITATES AN INCREASE IN PRECIPITATION COVERAGE OVER THE NEXT
SEVERAL HRS. OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS SUGGEST THE GREATEST THREAT FOR
FREEZING RAIN APPEARS TO BE FOCUSED NEAR/N OF THE I-10 CORRIDOR FROM
THE SRN HILL COUNTRY TOWARDS HOU.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9574 Postby Ntxw » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:32 pm

ravyrn wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Going to be an interesting night in SE TX with dew points in the mid 20s and temps near freezing. How exciting! Another winter weather event! I only hope these freezing rain events continue through the spring.


I've literally cracked up at everyone of your posts today hahahaha


Yeah I intend to make a thread cataloging all of his funny posts today :D


I loved his posts today! This new and improved wxman57 is refreshing! 5 SD's -----WSI

To be honest I had more fun countering his posts :cheesy:, not intentionally of course just as the data shows! But this is MUCH easier to work with :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9575 Postby ravyrn » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:34 pm

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18Z GFS

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0Z NAM

I'm interested to see how this event plays out for the Austin area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#9576 Postby aggiecutter » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:36 pm

wxman57 wrote:
WeatherGuesser wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:I don't, I need at least a few severe weather events this spring,

Apparently you've never had a house or business destroyed or a friend or family member killed or injured in a storm. One is all it takes.


Severe storms and freezing rain events can be very dangerous. How about we wish for beneficial rainfall vs. severe storms? If the roads get icy overnight then there will likely be many serious traffic accidents. Stay off the road tonight/tomorrow if it's icy.


That is very true. A couple was killed last night just west of Texarkana as they hit an icy spot on Interstate 30 and spun out of control and hit a tree.
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#9577 Postby davidiowx » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:36 pm

I just heard some thunder here. Gotta go outside to see. :cold:
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#9578 Postby downsouthman1 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:37 pm

Portastorm wrote:Well, this answers my concern regarding precip timing for SC Texas and whether or not this current disturbance would "rob" moisture from the vort max coming from the Big Bend.

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0170
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0923 PM CST MON MAR 03 2014

AREAS AFFECTED...S-CNTRL AND SE TX

CONCERNING...FREEZING RAIN

VALID 040323Z - 040830Z

SUMMARY...FREEZING RAIN THREAT WILL EXPAND SPATIALLY THROUGH LATE
EVENING AND EARLY TUE MORNING ACROSS S-CNTRL AND SE TX. RATES OF
0.05-0.1 INCH/HR WILL BE COMMON...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
POSSIBLE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THUNDERSTORMS.

DISCUSSION...SWATH OF CONVECTION EXTENDING FROM THE SRN HILL COUNTRY
EWD ALONG I-10 TO JUST W OF HOU APPEARS TO HAVE INITIATED IN
RESPONSE TO A WEAK UPPER IMPULSE OVER THE CENTRAL TX COAST /AS OF
03Z/...AND STRENGTHENING WAA REGIME ABOVE 2.5 KM AGL PRECEDING A
STRONGER VORT MAX APPROACHING THE BIG BEND. THIS IS OCCURRING MUCH
EARLIER THAN A MAJORITY OF 12Z/00Z MODEL GUIDANCE HAS
FORECAST...WITH EXCEPTION TO THE 12Z WRF-NSSL AND WRF-NMM
RUNS...WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE A SOMEWHAT REASONABLE DEPICTION OF
ONGOING ACTIVITY BUT ARE STILL SLOW WITH RESPECT TO OBSERVATIONS.

SFC OBS INDICATE TEMPERATURES ARE GENERALLY NEAR/ABOVE FREEZING
WHERE PRECIPITATION IS ONGOING CURRENTLY...WITH SFC FREEZING LINE
ANALYZED FROM NEAR TPL SEWD TO 20 N HOU AS OF 03Z. COMBINATION OF
WET-BULB COOLING /VIA ELEVATED CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION FALLING INTO
RELATIVELY DRIER SUB-CLOUD LAYER/...AND MODEST LOW-LEVEL CAA OUT OF
THE N/NE...SHOULD RESULT IN TEMPERATURES FALLING BELOW FREEZING OVER
THE NEXT 2-3 HRS ACROSS THE REGION. THIS WILL OCCUR
CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WITH A CONTINUED INCREASE IN FORCING FOR ASCENT AS
THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE IMPULSE MOVES OUT OF THE BIG BEND...AND
FACILITATES AN INCREASE IN PRECIPITATION COVERAGE OVER THE NEXT
SEVERAL HRS. OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS SUGGEST THE GREATEST THREAT FOR
FREEZING RAIN APPEARS TO BE FOCUSED NEAR/N OF THE I-10 CORRIDOR FROM
THE SRN HILL COUNTRY TOWARDS HOU.

Porta, if there is any robbing going on, it's the blob crossing the Rio Grand River right now in deep south TX, not the batch that's currently over areas further north.
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#9579 Postby ndale » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:40 pm

For the first time today we have precip reaching the ground, just rain now but it is very cold, should not take much more to start freezing.
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#9580 Postby Snowman67 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:42 pm

Thundering here in Tomball
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