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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#361 Postby snowballzzz » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:33 am

6Z GFS shows north/central TX barely getting above freezing on Christmas Eve. Still way too far out but the trends are going in the right direction.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#362 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:36 am

Forecast high of 87 today and 89 tomorrow...this is not right :x
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#363 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:40 am

Rgv20 wrote:Forecast high of 87 today and 89 tomorrow...this is not right :x

Mid to Upper 70s expected for my area today & Tomorrow, but this will change for my area this coming weekend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#364 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:40 am

Iceresistance wrote:MJO now in Phase 7

https://s10.gifyu.com/images/MJO-in-Phase-8.gif
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EDIT: I meant to say Phase 7, why did I say Phase 8 so much? :lol:


Indeed sir the MJO has finally left the coop. After weeks of looping around p4-6 it has now left that building.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#365 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:41 am

Texas Snowman wrote:@BigJoeBastardi — MJO going into colder phases, EPO and WPO going into their colder phases. Phase 6 yields what you see now. phase 7/8 much colder and what is likely coming. Pattern looks very cold to me Dec 20-Jan 20


I've alerted the School Officials about this, they will make an announcement about that Next Wednesday if this trend continues.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#366 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:45 am

Also we don't really need a fast moving MJO or any kind of monster EPO. It just needs to not fight it. We have a lot of cold sitting in Alaska and Canada that only needs a small opening to flood it out.

But until then we now are sitting in the well advertised torch pattern.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#367 Postby lrak » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:47 am

Rgv20 wrote:Forecast high of 87 today and 89 tomorrow...this is not right :x


I feel your pain Rgv20. My A/C has been on since last March. We need a big cold snap to cool the GOM.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#368 Postby gboudx » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:56 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:@BigJoeBastardi — MJO going into colder phases, EPO and WPO going into their colder phases. Phase 6 yields what you see now. phase 7/8 much colder and what is likely coming. Pattern looks very cold to me Dec 20-Jan 20


I've alerted the School Officials about this, they will make an announcement about that Next Wednesday if this trend continues.


The thing with JB is he may be referring to his area specifically. Without more info, it's hard to know how wide he's casting that net.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#369 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:57 am

gboudx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:@BigJoeBastardi — MJO going into colder phases, EPO and WPO going into their colder phases. Phase 6 yields what you see now. phase 7/8 much colder and what is likely coming. Pattern looks very cold to me Dec 20-Jan 20


I've alerted the School Officials about this, they will make an announcement about that Next Wednesday if this trend continues.


The thing with JB is he may be referring to his area specifically. Without more info, it's hard to know how wide he's casting that net.


Either way, if the PNA is still negative (As the Climate Prediction Center has been showing), we could be the impact zone for the Cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#370 Postby Golf7270 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:00 am

I think it will be after Christmas before it does get cold if its going to here. Not sure what you guys believe.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#371 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:04 am

Golf7270 wrote:I think it will be after Christmas before it does get cold if its going to here. Not sure what you guys believe.


It will be at Christmas at it's earliest, but it's most likely to be after Christmas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#372 Postby Cerlin » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:05 am

Teleconnections are very interesting for the end of this month. PNA is continuing to trend negative as well as the EPO (for now), NAO, and AO. Not only does this just signal cold air, but it signals widespread cold air. I’m not the best with teleconnections but that would imply to me that there’s going to be a battle between the negative PNA trying to direct air toward the rockies and the negative EPO/NAO trying to spill the cold into the east, which should put the plains right in the sweet spot.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#373 Postby Golf7270 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:08 am

Cerlin wrote:Teleconnections are very interesting for the end of this month. PNA is continuing to trend negative as well as the EPO (for now), NAO, and AO. Not only does this just signal cold air, but it signals widespread cold air. I’m not the best with teleconnections but that would imply to me that there’s going to be a battle between the negative PNA trying to direct air toward the rockies and the negative EPO/NAO trying to spill the cold into the east, which should put the plains right in the sweet spot.

Pay attention to the euro ensembles because they usually have a better track record with those teleconnections imo. Definitely want to see the epo go negative if it can.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#374 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:31 am

gboudx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:@BigJoeBastardi — MJO going into colder phases, EPO and WPO going into their colder phases. Phase 6 yields what you see now. phase 7/8 much colder and what is likely coming. Pattern looks very cold to me Dec 20-Jan 20


I've alerted the School Officials about this, they will make an announcement about that Next Wednesday if this trend continues.


The thing with JB is he may be referring to his area specifically. Without more info, it's hard to know how wide he's casting that net.


Here are great MJO temp composites of what you typically see during this time of year....as you can see 8-1-2 is prime for most widespread cold!

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#375 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:48 am

gboudx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Texas Snowman wrote:@BigJoeBastardi — MJO going into colder phases, EPO and WPO going into their colder phases. Phase 6 yields what you see now. phase 7/8 much colder and what is likely coming. Pattern looks very cold to me Dec 20-Jan 20


I've alerted the School Officials about this, they will make an announcement about that Next Wednesday if this trend continues.


The thing with JB is he may be referring to his area specifically. Without more info, it's hard to know how wide he's casting that net.

Or how much he’s overstating what he can catch…
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#376 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:52 am

12z GFS ends the warm party a little early with a good front behind a strong system on the 20th. Definitely liking the trend over the EPO region.

Alaska is warming up and Canada is well loaded with frigid air. Get that Pacific ridge to pop over Alaska and we could talk severe cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#377 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:54 am

12z GFS is showing Rain/Snow mix for SE Texas by Christmas Week
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#378 Postby harp » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:14 pm

Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS is showing Rain/Snow mix for SE Texas by Christmas Week
What frame is that? I don’t see it yet.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#379 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:15 pm

harp wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS is showing Rain/Snow mix for SE Texas by Christmas Week
What frame is that? I don’t see it yet.


+288 Hours, towards Houston, TX
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#380 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:26 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
harp wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS is showing Rain/Snow mix for SE Texas by Christmas Week
What frame is that? I don’t see it yet.


+288 Hours, towards Houston, TX


Lock it in.... it's got to be correct now
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