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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5821 Postby JDawg512 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:49 pm

radar is showing more precipitation coming up from the south.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5822 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:51 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Just got the email. Keller is going to stay closed tomorrow. A little surprised since I bet roads will be fine by 10 a.m. based on current forecasts. Maybe earlier.

Maybe they're not taking any chances.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5823 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:54 pm

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opticsguy wrote:Just looked out side (N of McKinney). Everything is wet and most of the ice is gone. 27 degrees, but the rain that came down was warm enough to melt most everything.


I thought it was raining here, but it's just water running off from the ice on the roof going thru a pretty rapid melting. Most roofs on my street are almost ice free now.

My front sidewalk and driveway are almost clear from ice as well. I was all under a fairly think sheet of compacted sleet when I went to bed last night. I don't have a thermometer, but finding it hard to believe we are below 30 with this kind of thaw occuring, but cant say for sure.

Not what I expected today, but I'll take it.

I might even be able to make it to the liquor store in a little bit :D


Same here in McKinney, tree branches and bushes and vehicles that were cased in ice last night are just wet now. Temperature in the mid-20s but I guess the raindrops and the sunlight are warm enough to prevent the major ice storm here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5824 Postby orangeblood » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:55 pm

txtwister78 wrote:Crazy morning from SA to AUS with ice and power outages. Worst of it over there. Despite the light freezing rain up in DFW this morning, it appears so far, they have dodged the worst of it for now. Latest HRRR and 3k NAM warms temps just at or above freezing by 6 AM tomorrow for most locations. As mentioned yesterday hopefully that trend occurs.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/hrrr/dallas/t2m_f/1675267200/1675332000-Ef5YxdeG0CA.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/dallas/t2m_f/1675252800/1675339200-JRQ7HV7qpOI.png


I just don’t see how we can trust the HRRR right now, it’s still 2-3 F too warm every single run
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5825 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:58 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
ColdFusion wrote:
opticsguy wrote:Just looked out side (N of McKinney). Everything is wet and most of the ice is gone. 27 degrees, but the rain that came down was warm enough to melt most everything.


I thought it was raining here, but it's just water running off from the ice on the roof going thru a pretty rapid melting. Most roofs on my street are almost ice free now.

My front sidewalk and driveway are almost clear from ice as well. I was all under a fairly think sheet of compacted sleet when I went to bed last night. I don't have a thermometer, but finding it hard to believe we are below 30 with this kind of thaw occuring, but cant say for sure.

Not what I expected today, but I'll take it.

I might even be able to make it to the liquor store in a little bit :D


Same here in McKinney, tree branches and bushes and vehicles that were cased in ice last night are just wet now. Temperature in the mid-20s but I guess the raindrops and the sunlight are warm enough to prevent the major ice storm here.


Not the case here, streets and rooftops still covered though not 100%

We stay below freezing so we will have issues with any precipitation that comes, especially over night and into tomorrow morning. Most bus barns will make call by 6am on whether it's safe to run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5826 Postby orangeblood » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:59 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
ColdFusion wrote:
opticsguy wrote:Just looked out side (N of McKinney). Everything is wet and most of the ice is gone. 27 degrees, but the rain that came down was warm enough to melt most everything.


I thought it was raining here, but it's just water running off from the ice on the roof going thru a pretty rapid melting. Most roofs on my street are almost ice free now.

My front sidewalk and driveway are almost clear from ice as well. I was all under a fairly think sheet of compacted sleet when I went to bed last night. I don't have a thermometer, but finding it hard to believe we are below 30 with this kind of thaw occuring, but cant say for sure.

Not what I expected today, but I'll take it.

I might even be able to make it to the liquor store in a little bit :D


Same here in McKinney, tree branches and bushes and vehicles that were cased in ice last night are just wet now. Temperature in the mid-20s but I guess the raindrops and the sunlight are warm enough to prevent the major ice storm here.


Daylight hours do wonders on ice/snow regardless of temps (unless well below freezing). It’s when the sun goes down that issues start back up again.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5827 Postby txtwister78 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:01 pm

orangeblood wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:Crazy morning from SA to AUS with ice and power outages. Worst of it over there. Despite the light freezing rain up in DFW this morning, it appears so far, they have dodged the worst of it for now. Latest HRRR and 3k NAM warms temps just at or above freezing by 6 AM tomorrow for most locations. As mentioned yesterday hopefully that trend occurs.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/hrrr/dallas/t2m_f/1675267200/1675332000-Ef5YxdeG0CA.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/dallas/t2m_f/1675252800/1675339200-JRQ7HV7qpOI.png


I just don’t see how we can trust the HRRR right now, it’s still 2-3 F too warm every single run


Well, the good news is it has some support from other model guidance as well (NAM, RAP and ARW).
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5828 Postby DonWrk » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:04 pm

What actually falls is extremely weak vs what the radar is showing. This is the kind of stuff that falls when the radar is showing nothing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5829 Postby gboudx » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:05 pm

Its light rain here in Rockwall with a healthy thaw happening from the rooftops and street. Temp shows 30 and rising.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5830 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:07 pm

DFW up to 30F while most other locations are 28-29F

Currently lite freezing rain at house.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5831 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:07 pm

By the airport the sleet crunch is gone. Now it's a glaze of ice over it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5832 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:07 pm

Been away skiing and not on my mac at all. I missed 50 pages or so the last few days, wishing you all the best. Hope you guys are all staying safe.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5833 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:08 pm

Well, unfortunately, it's freezing rain now. No pingers heard anymore.

Roofs are still covered in sleet but starting to melt. Icicles forming on neighbor's solar panels.

I think it will still take a long time for any significant accumulation, but not great, especially if it continues tonight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5834 Postby Quixotic » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:12 pm

Hope I’m right and this ends up busting.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5835 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:13 pm

Quixotic wrote:Hope I’m right and this ends up busting.


Yes sleet was fun, freezing rain isn't that interesting. Looks just like rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5836 Postby Gotwood » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:14 pm

Quixotic wrote:Hope I’m right and this ends up busting.

Looks like that right now. Seems like hot water is falling from the sky because it’s not freezing and taking all the ice with it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5837 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:15 pm

Gotwood wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Hope I’m right and this ends up busting.

Looks like that right now. Seems like hot water is falling from the sky because it’s not freezing and taking all the ice with it.


You have to consider though, it doesn't mean the water isn't freezing. The sleet by nature is colder than the rain before it freezes, thus the liquid melts some of the sleet. It's about accretion with the ZR, slow freeze.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5838 Postby Gotwood » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:17 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Gotwood wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Hope I’m right and this ends up busting.

Looks like that right now. Seems like hot water is falling from the sky because it’s not freezing and taking all the ice with it.


You have to consider though, it doesn't mean the water isn't freezing. The sleet by nature is colder than the rain before it freezes, thus the liquid melts some of the sleet. It's about accretion with the ZR, slow freeze.

I agree but it isn’t even sticking fast to cars or anything.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5839 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:18 pm

Gotwood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Gotwood wrote:Looks like that right now. Seems like hot water is falling from the sky because it’s not freezing and taking all the ice with it.


You have to consider though, it doesn't mean the water isn't freezing. The sleet by nature is colder than the rain before it freezes, thus the liquid melts some of the sleet. It's about accretion with the ZR, slow freeze.

I agree but it isn’t even sticking fast to cars or anything.


It's not supposed to. It's unfrozen water, it's slow. This is why I've said freezing rain isn't visually interesting.

http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/210/
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5840 Postby Quixotic » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:22 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Hope I’m right and this ends up busting.


Yes sleet was fun, freezing rain isn't that interesting. Looks just like rain.


I remember the 78 (79)? Ice storm in Dallas. We had 10 trees and lost 7 of them. Couldn’t go outside because all the downed power lines. 6 days without power, 8 people in the house and my father was about to go Jack Torrance on us. I don’t ever want that again.
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