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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5301 Postby FloppaHorn » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:31 pm

chickypez wrote:
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gpsnowman wrote:What is it showing?


Main show late tonight into tomorrow. Inches of sleet.

Getting a flizzard now.


Where? I have no clue how to read all those models, I'm just here for the info. It's helpful if there is more detailed info.


This is what I'm looking at. And, as previously mentioned, I'm far from the most weather savvy compared to most on here.

https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/

Click on "NAM". Select the run and precipitation type on the left. Hit play. From what I see, it had DFW getting a constant stream of freezing rain and sleet from this moment through the next 51 hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5302 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:31 pm

Nam definitely likes sleet as the predominant precip type across much of North TX into the DFW area over the next 48 hours. That would be better though for travel/traction as opposed to all that being freezing rain. Of course some heavier bands could cause some issues but definitely not the apocalyptic run that the RGEM has been showing for freezing rain.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5303 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:37 pm

txtwister78 wrote:Nam definitely likes sleet as the predominant precip type across much of North TX into the DFW area over the next 48 hours. That would be better though for travel/traction as opposed to all that being freezing rain. Of course some heavier bands could cause some issues but definitely not the apocalyptic run that the RGEM has been showing for freezing rain.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675296000-4KGebW9WgBs.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675281600-NPiGjbunXfo.png


That's because temps through out the layers are colder than what was modeled and forecast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5304 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:41 pm

Definitely giving 12/2013 vibes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5305 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:43 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:Nam definitely likes sleet as the predominant precip type across much of North TX into the DFW area over the next 48 hours. That would be better though for travel/traction as opposed to all that being freezing rain. Of course some heavier bands could cause some issues but definitely not the apocalyptic run that the RGEM has been showing for freezing rain.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675296000-4KGebW9WgBs.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675281600-NPiGjbunXfo.png


That's because temps through out the layers are colder than what was modeled and forecast.


Exactly and that's an indicator of a colder temp profile upstairs which is why I said it's better than having that in the form of all freezing rain (travel wise)
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5306 Postby Brent » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Definitely one of the better pure sleet storms I've seen here but what really gets me about today is over the weekend the idea pushed today was light precip... That sleet was many things but light was not one of them :lol: tbh I'm kind of wondering if that was the peak here. Most of it looks to be south from here on out. Good luck down there

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5307 Postby Edwards Limestone » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:48 pm

https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/?parms=2023013018-HRRR-SGP-winter-frzra-48-0-100

Can't post image here but 18Z HRRR frzg rain accumulations thru Wed = yikes
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5308 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:52 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5309 Postby orangeblood » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:52 pm

txtwister78 wrote:Nam definitely likes sleet as the predominant precip type across much of North TX into the DFW area over the next 48 hours. That would be better though for travel/traction as opposed to all that being freezing rain. Of course some heavier bands could cause some issues but definitely not the apocalyptic run that the RGEM has been showing for freezing rain.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675296000-4KGebW9WgBs.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675281600-NPiGjbunXfo.png


A little more sleet which is good news but still not too far behind with Frz Rn predictions...1" plus amounts for some in North Texas. It's continuing to keep sub freezing temps around during heavy QPF 3rd round on Wednesday, that's when Power Lines issues could arise before temps get above freezing on, hopefully, Thursday!!!

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5310 Postby Quixotic » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:56 pm

Feb 2003 would be crippling. 3-5” of sleet?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5311 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:57 pm

My temp is actually at the lowest it's been all day, 25.5.

Had a bit of flurries, maybe that cooled the air a bit. Had been at 26.

But, no sign of any warm-up at all today or warm bust around here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5312 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:01 pm

orangeblood wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:Nam definitely likes sleet as the predominant precip type across much of North TX into the DFW area over the next 48 hours. That would be better though for travel/traction as opposed to all that being freezing rain. Of course some heavier bands could cause some issues but definitely not the apocalyptic run that the RGEM has been showing for freezing rain.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675296000-4KGebW9WgBs.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675281600-NPiGjbunXfo.png


A little more sleet which is good news but still not too far behind with Frz Rn predictions...1" plus amounts for some in North Texas. It's continuing to keep sub freezing temps around during heavy QPF 3rd round on Wednesday, that's when Power Lines issues could arise before temps get above freezing on, hopefully, Thursday!!!

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/frzr_total/1675101600/1675404000-cJjOJCqypKM.png


I still think those Wednesday highs are too cold, but we shall see. A lot of low 40's showing up across Panhandle on Wed afternoon so no question about the moderation/"warming" trend at that point. Might be keeping temps just below freezing as a result of sleet accumulation. That would spare DFW the worst onslaught of freezing rain if that's off/too cold. Fingers crossed for some family up there. Definitely not rooting for the extreme.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5313 Postby Edwards Limestone » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:03 pm

Interesting to compare total frzg accum maps NAM with HRRR.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5314 Postby orangeblood » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:09 pm

txtwister78 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:Nam definitely likes sleet as the predominant precip type across much of North TX into the DFW area over the next 48 hours. That would be better though for travel/traction as opposed to all that being freezing rain. Of course some heavier bands could cause some issues but definitely not the apocalyptic run that the RGEM has been showing for freezing rain.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675296000-4KGebW9WgBs.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/sleet_total/1675101600/1675281600-NPiGjbunXfo.png


A little more sleet which is good news but still not too far behind with Frz Rn predictions...1" plus amounts for some in North Texas. It's continuing to keep sub freezing temps around during heavy QPF 3rd round on Wednesday, that's when Power Lines issues could arise before temps get above freezing on, hopefully, Thursday!!!

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/frzr_total/1675101600/1675404000-cJjOJCqypKM.png


I still think those Wednesday highs are too cold, but we shall see. A lot of low 40's showing up across Panhandle on Wed afternoon so no question about the moderation/"warming" trend at that point. Might be keeping temps just below freezing as a result of sleet accumulation. That would spare DFW the worst onslaught of freezing rain if that's off/too cold. Fingers crossed for some family up there. Definitely not rooting for the extreme.


Check out the surface wind field though...Panhandle warming due to downsloping west wind direction, North Texas maintains cold advection out of the North thru Thursday. It's relentless and what makes this cold air pocket unique/something you don't see that often. The cold dome is literally stuck over the state and doesn't erode until west wind kicks in late Thursday
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5315 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:11 pm

orangeblood wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
A little more sleet which is good news but still not too far behind with Frz Rn predictions...1" plus amounts for some in North Texas. It's continuing to keep sub freezing temps around during heavy QPF 3rd round on Wednesday, that's when Power Lines issues could arise before temps get above freezing on, hopefully, Thursday!!!

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/frzr_total/1675101600/1675404000-cJjOJCqypKM.png


I still think those Wednesday highs are too cold, but we shall see. A lot of low 40's showing up across Panhandle on Wed afternoon so no question about the moderation/"warming" trend at that point. Might be keeping temps just below freezing as a result of sleet accumulation. That would spare DFW the worst onslaught of freezing rain if that's off/too cold. Fingers crossed for some family up there. Definitely not rooting for the extreme.


Check out the surface wind field though...Panhandle warming due to downsloping west wind direction, North Texas maintains cold advection out of the North thru Thursday. It's relentless and what makes this cold air pocket unique/something you don't see that often. The cold dome is literally stuck over the state and doesn't erode until west wind kicks in on Friday


Temperature inversion. They can be stubborn. You can recall a couple days ago even with the change in tune, a little below freezing was the idea. Yet we have been in the danger range 27-28 all day. That's not a little bit of freezing temps.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5316 Postby Edwards Limestone » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:13 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5317 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:20 pm

Temp dropping pretty rapidly now at 24. Did not expect this.

Thought we would be stable.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5318 Postby DallasAg » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:21 pm

Looks like maybe things are winding down a bit? The steady fetch of convection to the SW of the metroplex has dried up to a degree. Folks W, NW, N, and NE of the metroplex still have a few hours for this wave to pass.

Are we thinking freezing drizzle takes over for a while before the big event or all dry and a chance for some drying/sublimation?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5319 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:22 pm



If that ends up being right "I'm buying" next time I'm up in Dallas for the special Storm 2k get together. :wink: Lol.

Yeah let's just hope that's not right.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#5320 Postby lrak » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:22 pm

From Brownsville NWS "While forecast
soundings from the NAM show a nose of below zero colder temperatures
just above the deck across the northern sections, freezing rain
probability remains low and not enough to justify mention in the
deterministic forecast. It is worth noting that the probability is
not zero
, however. Bottom line for the short term forecast? Look for
cold, dreary, gray, and moist (wetting) weather.

Brrr....
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