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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1081 Postby aggiecutter » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:46 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, but this is starting to feel like a giant bust outside of the Panhandle and High Plains.


Looking at the 12z GFS(it should have a handle on things now) it appears that the main moisture axis will be along and east of I-35. Looks like the coastal low will rob most of the moisture from points west of there.

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#1082 Postby sooner101 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:46 pm

very light sleet coming down on carrollton plano border
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1083 Postby Ntxw » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:48 pm

I'd like to report that the official North Texas Branch of PWC has received the first sleet pellets of the winter season off Bush tollway east side of the Airport.
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1084 Postby SouthernMet » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:48 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, but this is starting to feel like a giant bust outside of the Panhandle and High Plains.


Remember this is just the first round of 3. Stay tuned, the main event is still to come.
Models still showing impressive QPF totals for I-35 corridor for tonight/tomorrow morning, potentially dangerous situation when you are below freezing getting heavy ice/sleet for multiple hours.
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#1085 Postby Portastorm » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:49 pm

aggiecutter wrote:Currently in Texarkana it is 33 degrees with a dewpoint of 15. All the 12z runs of the models have a QPF output of 1-1.25" of precip for the Texarkana area. I don't need JB or Portastorm(one in the same) to tell me that equals a significant ice storm for this area.


Look who finally woke up and realized a winter storm was upon us! :P

We all should move to Texarkana!
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1086 Postby Longhornmaniac8 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:54 pm

Porta, have you been noticing dew points rising over the last hour or so? Is this expected after a rain event like that?

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#1087 Postby aggiecutter » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:56 pm

Portastorm wrote:
aggiecutter wrote:Currently in Texarkana it is 33 degrees with a dewpoint of 15. All the 12z runs of the models have a QPF output of 1-1.25" of precip for the Texarkana area. I don't need JB or Portastorm(one in the same) to tell me that equals a significant ice storm for this area.


Look who finally woke up and realized a winter storm was upon us! :P

We all should move to Texarkana!


I don't know about that. The Christmas ice storm of 2000 was pretty devastating. I was without power for 8 days, not fun at all. BTW, enjoy the weather, its the only weather you've got.
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#1088 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:57 pm

Dewpoint 15 in Texarkana? :eek: Wow. Its still dropping here in SL, ready to see this next moisture plume. Im guessing as it hits eastern NM things will really fire up
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#1089 Postby BigB0882 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:01 pm

Is there any chance of any wintry precipitation in Southeast Louisiana Tuesday night? I notice we have a good chance of rain Tuesday (100%) but I don't know when that rain is supposed to end. Our low for that night has gone from 37 to 35 so we are only 3 degrees away from hitting the freezing mark at the surface.
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1090 Postby iorange55 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:04 pm

Looks like the first band of precip split DFW in half. This was expected to be the weakest band, though. Hard to call this a "bust" yet.

We'll see what happens tonight, hopefully we stay away from the freezing rain.
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1091 Postby WeatherNewbie » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:10 pm

first sleet pellets just started coming down in richardson.
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1092 Postby sooner101 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:11 pm

Pretty decent sleet and rain coming down off of Frankford and the tollway on carrollton/dallas border
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1093 Postby downsouthman1 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:12 pm

iorange55 wrote:Looks like the first band of precip split DFW in half. This was expected to be the weakest band, though. Hard to call this a "bust" yet.

We'll see what happens tonight, hopefully we stay away from the freezing rain.

Yes. Way too early to call this a bust. The dynamics are coming into place. This 1st batch needed to come through to create the wet-bulb effect. It is doing exactly what it was forecast to do. Considering that almost all of yesterday's late-day NAM runs actually showed the batch dissipate before it made it, we are now in a worse condition as a result of the fact that the models initialized the batch incorrectly. As a result, the atmosphere is now more primed than those models thought for a significant event.

Keep an eye on the development on radar west of San Angelo & over Sonora. It may break the expected lull in activity or grow upscale & launch the next wave.
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1094 Postby iorange55 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:13 pm

Finally getting some sleet here in the Cedar Hill area.
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#1095 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:13 pm

I know this may be a bit off topic with the current winter weather happening right now but just an update on the long range weather....GFS Ensembles and ECMWF Ensembles continue to hint at a stormy pattern in the long range. We could see another cold outbreak around the second week of December.


Look at that blocking in Alaska! in the 11-15 days, ECMWF Ensembles are similar in this time frame.

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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1096 Postby Longhornmaniac8 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:14 pm

downsouthman1 wrote:
iorange55 wrote:Looks like the first band of precip split DFW in half. This was expected to be the weakest band, though. Hard to call this a "bust" yet.

We'll see what happens tonight, hopefully we stay away from the freezing rain.

Yes. Way too early to call this a bust. The dynamics are coming into place. This 1st batch needed to come through to create the wet-bulb effect. It is doing exactly what it was forecast to do. Considering that almost all of yesterday's late-day NAM runs actually showed the batch dissipate before it made it, we are now in a worse condition as a result of the fact that the models initialized the batch incorrectly. As a result, the atmosphere is now more primed than those models thought for a significant event.


We'll need more wet bulbing down here to make it to freezing! Closest I got was 35.4.

Cheers,
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1097 Postby downsouthman1 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:15 pm

Longhornmaniac8 wrote:
downsouthman1 wrote:
iorange55 wrote:Looks like the first band of precip split DFW in half. This was expected to be the weakest band, though. Hard to call this a "bust" yet.

We'll see what happens tonight, hopefully we stay away from the freezing rain.

Yes. Way too early to call this a bust. The dynamics are coming into place. This 1st batch needed to come through to create the wet-bulb effect. It is doing exactly what it was forecast to do. Considering that almost all of yesterday's late-day NAM runs actually showed the batch dissipate before it made it, we are now in a worse condition as a result of the fact that the models initialized the batch incorrectly. As a result, the atmosphere is now more primed than those models thought for a significant event.


We'll need more wet bulbing down here to make it to freezing! Closest I got was 35.4.

Cheers,
Cameron

This is the beginning. This is a progressive storm system. Not a one-shot & you're out kind of deal.
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#1098 Postby Ntxw » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:16 pm

Rgv20 wrote:I know this may be a bit off topic with the current winter weather happening right now but just an update on the long range weather....GFS Ensembles and ECMWF Ensembles continue to hint at a stormy pattern in the long range. We could see another cold outbreak around the second week of December.


Look at that blocking in Alaska! in the 11-15 days, ECMWF Ensembles are similar in this time frame.


Check your PM RGV20
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Re: Texas Fall 2013

#1099 Postby TrekkerCC » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:20 pm

I also confirm some light sleet here (plano area).
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#1100 Postby gboudx » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:21 pm

So far only light rain in Rockwall. Temp 33.
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