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Re: Florida Weather

#11141 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:35 am

Cold front came through right near 6 a.m. this morning here at my home station. Temperature already down to 50.4 degrees at 8:30 a.m. Temp has dropped nearly 15 degrees in just over 2 hours here. North wind gusting to 25 mph currently. Temp will fall through the 40s all day long. Wind chills will be nasty today. Should be upper 30s by 00z this evening. Expecting 27 degrees here at my locale at sunrise time tomorrow morning.

Also, ended up with 1.3 inches of rainfall as the rain came to end just before 6 a.m. and the arctic frontal passage.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11142 Postby NDG » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:40 am

I got another nice round of heavy rains this morning, wow, what a nice treat my part of town got, needed it bad.

Here are the latest MOS guidance for the next couple of mornings' lows:

Tallahassee: 27, 25
Jax: 26, 29
Ocala: 32, 34
Daytona: 37, 44
Orlando: 37, 43
Tampa: 39, 43
Ft Myers: 42, 46
West Palm, 54, 59
Miami: 55, 56
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Re: Florida Weather

#11143 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:50 am

Yeah NDG had some nice thunder boomers earlier this morning. Woke me up for sure lol..Really got some very beneficial rain here this morning. Really needed after the dry past few months.

Yeah two good freezes on tap here the next two mornings before we warm back up again.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11144 Postby NDG » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:11 am

northjaxpro wrote:Yeah NDG had some nice thunder boomers earlier this morning. Woke me up for sure lol..Really got some very beneficial rain here this morning. Really needed after the dry past few months.

Yeah two good freezes on tap here the next two mornings before we warm back up again.


We lucked out here along the I-4 corridor, had the NAO been negative & the PNA positive we would had probably seen the temps southern TX is having this morning.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11145 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:48 pm

Looks like the 12Z GFS has come in slightly colder for Florida with mid 30s across the I-4 corridor. Will be interesting to see if models trend colder for this event. The HRRR will be one to watch as we are almost in its 18 hour range. I see mid 30sF across the panhandle right now in the middle of the day :cold: :double:
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Re: Florida Weather

#11146 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:14 pm

The 12Z ECMWF shows the 850mb freeze line further south than the 00Z down to North-Central Florida so it seems it has gone a little colder also. Not sure if anybody has the 2M temps from the latest ECMWF?
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Re: Florida Weather

#11147 Postby psyclone » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:26 pm

really impressive cold air advection..sun breaking out here but temps continue to slip with a blustery northwest wind. My NWS forecast for tonight is 38 which would be our first sub 40 low of the season and our coldest night of the season by about 6 degrees. Looking ahead the 6-10 day and 8-14 day outlooks are deep maroon so warmth will be returning with a vengeance and the rebound gets underway in earnest Monday with maxes in the 70's back to central florida by Tuesday.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11148 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:19 pm

Yes, this quick cool/cold blast is impressive considering the current state of the teleconnections being all against supporting colder weather for the peninsula of Florida.

If you want to talk really impressive go back to just 7 years ago when snow flurries/wintry precip. was being spotted all the way down here in West Palm Beach!
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Re: Florida Weather

#11149 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:41 pm

Looks like NWS Tampa has lowered the forecast lows tonight. In pysclone's locale of Palm Harbor, they are going with 37F. Down here in South Florida, some areas around West Palm have already dropped below forecasted lows. Here in Boca Raton, we are at 57F at 9:00pm EST with a projected low of 55F. NWS Miami may have no choice but to drop lows for their grids further. Winds are howling out there!
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Re: Florida Weather

#11150 Postby psyclone » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:44 pm

yep it feels really cold with those persistent winds. already down to 41 at tampa and 42 at st pete Clearwater. coldest night of the season so far. it's not dramatically colder upstream ( 39 in Brooksville and 37 in Ocala) so that air will advect down here overnight and give us our first 30's of the winter. it feels so much colder than the thermometer suggests..
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Re: Florida Weather

#11151 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:13 am

Think I spoke too soon! It is currently 46° here at my house in Palm Beach Gardens with Wind Chills in the upper 30's. I can only imagine how much colder it could have been if the NAO/AO, and PNA were favorable for cold air in the Florida peninsula.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11152 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:38 am

It got a bit colder than forecasted as it bottomed out at 25.2 degrees this morning at my home station early tbis morning. This is the coldest temperature measured here at my home station so far this winter season and the first Hard Freeze of the season here It is only the third overall this season. Wind chill temps in the upper teens here this morning


The snowpack just north of the area in Georgia and the Carolinas played a chief factor, which I have discussed in past days, which could give us colder than expected numbers this morning. Looks like that has come to fruition.

Highs only in the mid 40s in Jax today with wind chills in the 30s all day. Another freeze with temps in the upper 20s forecast here for tomorrow morning, then temps will moderate beginning Tuesday. A very short-lived, but impressive cold snap given that the teleconnections were not favorable for such cold weather across the penisula.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11153 Postby NDG » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:53 am

East central FL got as cold as forecasted but for the most part the rest of the Peninsula is colder than what I remember seeing at the MOS guidance yesterday.
If fact the freezing line slipped down I-75 to the northern suburbs of Tampa. East central FL got lucky because cloud cover stayed longer last night with a slight onshore component of the winds at h925 which the winds at that height should become more on shore later today and tonight preventing temps along the eastern coast to fall as low as this morning.
Had the NAO being negative and PNA positive the Arctic High Center would had settled over the Peninsula tonight and we would had seen widespread freezing across central and parts of southern FL, we really lucked out compared to the rest of the deep south.

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Re: Florida Weather

#11154 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:58 am

:uarrow: It is amazing how Florida peninsula keeps getting so lucky with the teleconnections. Lol.. It is a broken record. Just like with hurricanes, our fortunate luck with these arctic outbreaks will come to an end eventually.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11155 Postby NDG » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:02 am

northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: It is amazing how we keep getting so lucky with the teleconnections. Lol.. It is a broken record. Just like with hurricanes, our fortunate luck with these arctic outbreaks eventually come to an end eventually.


Yeap, are luck is going to run out any time now, its been 6 years since central & southern FL has had a good freeze.

Look at SE TX, with their second night in a row in the deep freeze with many places with 12+ hours subfreezing, that's damaging for sure.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11156 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:09 am

It got down to 36 down to Sarasota this morning. Impressive. Crestview reported 21 degrees this morning, the coldest in the state as they typically are there. 25 degrees here at my home station, 26 is the low temp officially at the NWS Jax office.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11157 Postby NDG » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:25 am

northjaxpro wrote:It got down to 36 down to Sarasota this morning. Impressive. Crestview reported 21 degrees this morning, the coldest in the state as they typically are there. 25 degrees, like here at my home station, is the low temp officially at the NWS Jax office.


Upper 30s made it all the way down to the NE suburbs of Ft Myers, that's impressive. Like I said earlier they found an easy way down I-75, not much traffic this morning :lol:
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Re: Florida Weather

#11158 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:32 am

Yeah NDG I saw how upper 30s made it down to Fort Myers this morning. I overlooked that a few minutes ago. I also double checked with the Jax NWS office a couple of minutes ago with a forecaster there and he confirmed 26 degrees officially there. I had to edit the previous post. It ended up being a degree colder here at my locale, which is about 5miles from the NWS office.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11159 Postby psyclone » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:31 pm

35 in tampa and 36 at st pete Clearwater. as others have noted impressive cold with temps a bit below forecasted levels for a change. it is amazing the extent to which an advective cold event flattens the temp gradient compared to our more typical radiation cold events....more extreme advection events are what makes central florida a different world compared to south florida...and those events only need to happen once a decade or so. I'm ready for the warm up to begin.
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Re: Florida Weather

#11160 Postby chaser1 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:47 pm

psyclone wrote:35 in tampa and 36 at st pete Clearwater. as others have noted impressive cold with temps a bit below forecasted levels for a change. it is amazing the extent to which an advective cold event flattens the temp gradient compared to our more typical radiation cold events....more extreme advection events are what makes central florida a different world compared to south florida...and those events only need to happen once a decade or so. I'm ready for the warm up to begin.


Your not kidding, either! Last night I believe that the Kendall area (southwest of Miami) bottomed out nearly 10 degrees colder than all forecasts had anticipated. That surface pressure gradient in concert with the dramatic mid level height fall, really helped usher south this pocket of Arctic air. Here in Winter Springs (North of Orlando), I believe we reached an official 34F at the Sanford Airport and my house reading matched that 34F as well. As or more impressive however, was that I actually had to wear 3 shirt layers throughout the day... and I'm talking about a couple items that I had purchased/worn for my Iceland trip this past Spring! Today was the coldest day that I can recall experiencing here over the last couple years. That aside, I certainly was not expecting tonight's radiational cooling to be nearly as impressive as is what is presently occurring here now. My location temperature at 6:00pm was 45F! Yesterday this time, I had assumed that the onshore flow would be strong enough to mitigate temps here dropping much below 48F. As others have stated, pretty impressive blast of cold air given the pattern we're presently in. Looks like were all gonna have to wait about 10 days for any appreciable next front to drop through.
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