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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1361 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed May 07, 2008 8:40 am

New 13Z SWODY1 just shifted risk area out of Houston area. The early morning risk area included much of the area.

New RUC sounding for 4 pm this afternoon at Conroe suggests it may be a bit too capped for any action, but if storms can fire on the dry line, there is adequate shear and instability for severe weather. The cap is a little weaker at UTS and CLL, so somewhere at the Northern edge of the Houston NWS forecast area will see some impressive storms, probably.

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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1362 Postby Garnetcat5 » Wed May 07, 2008 9:01 am

KatDaddy, what two events are happening in Houston? When? Where?
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#1363 Postby KatDaddy » Wed May 07, 2008 12:07 pm

ImpactWeather Seminar next Tuesday

pdf Link to Seminar...

http://impactweather.com/pdf/business-i ... r-2008.pdf

Accu-Weather seminar next Monday afternoon downtown

https://wwwl.accuweather.com/hurr_summit.htm
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1364 Postby jasons2k » Wed May 07, 2008 12:54 pm

Wish I could make it but I can't - maybe the Hurricane Conference though.....
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1365 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed May 07, 2008 7:44 pm

Radar loop- cap holding strong for all of SE Texas


No rain for you.
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#1366 Postby southerngale » Thu May 08, 2008 12:16 am

It's gonna be hot the rest of the week - highs in the 90's every day. Image
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1367 Postby jasons2k » Thu May 08, 2008 9:48 am

From Jeff Lindner:

Near record heat will be building across the state today and Friday.

Weak boundary pushing across the region this morning…hard to call it a cool front…more like a dry line with dewpoints falling into the lower 60’s north of the boundary. Just above the surface 30-40kts of westerly wind is found and this will mix down once a few hours of heating are completed. Westerly winds in SE TX are dry/hot winds this time of year and today will be no exception. Expect many locations to reach their first 90 today which falls short of any records.

Heat really cranks in on Friday as ridging builds out of Mexico. Low to mid 100’s will build NE out of the Rio Grande plains into S TX with widespread mid to upper 90’s across all of S and C TX and low to mid 90’s across SE TX. Record at IAH is 94 in 1998 and this looks to be in jeopardy. 850mb temps. rise into the low to mid 20C range across the area with the highest values around Matagorda Bay closest to the building ridge aloft. Low level southerly winds will keep very humid surface conditions in place and when combined with the high temps…will produce heat index values well over 100. Will repeat again on Saturday only a few degrees cooler.

Weak front approaches on Sunday and this should help bring temps. back toward normal. With ridging aloft and strong cap in place feel chances for rain are slight even with good moisture in place. Will need to keep an eye out to the W both Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoons as the dry line may be able to fire off an isolated severe storms that could make a run for our N or W counties. Given the forecasted high temps in the mid to upper 90’s along the dry line there will be all kinds of surface instability in place…but the capping will have to be breached to release it vertically.

Horrible model agreement after Monday as GFS is at odds with ECMWF on placement of large closed upper low and associated weather. GFS has the low parked over the Great Lakes…and a drier forecast while the ECMWF has it over New Mexico with SW flow aloft over TX and a wetter forecast. Climatology would tend to favor the ECMWF….we shall see! With such poor model agreement will go with a status quo forecast through next Wednesday with the understanding that significant adjustments may be needed as the models start to converge toward a solution.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1368 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu May 08, 2008 10:19 am

Will have to set out the sprinkler after mowing Saturday.


But the Monday rains saved me a mid-week lawn watering.
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#1369 Postby southerngale » Thu May 08, 2008 10:46 am

NWS forecast for my area:

Today: Sunny, with a high near 96. West wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Geez Louise... just last week, we were having record lows. The pools are warming up nicely with these temps.





Edited at 12:40 p.m. NWS has lowered the high for today.

This Afternoon: Sunny, with a high near 91. West wind between 5 and 10 mph.

It's only 79F right now.
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#1370 Postby hiflyer » Thu May 08, 2008 1:35 pm

Birmingham about to get sucker punched with Atlanta next (CNN already freakin). Suspect evening news will be tornado 101 from Tupelo east to Atlanta. these midwest storms have been tough over the past week....went to/from the west coast from Ft Lauderdale via Denver and both ways went all the way north of St Louis to get around...and still bounced all over the sky especially yesterday coming back. All altitudes and all routes...that is a lot of unstable air.
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#1371 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu May 08, 2008 2:24 pm

hiflyer wrote:Birmingham about to get sucker punched with Atlanta next (CNN already freakin). Suspect evening news will be tornado 101 from Tupelo east to Atlanta. these midwest storms have been tough over the past week....went to/from the west coast from Ft Lauderdale via Denver and both ways went all the way north of St Louis to get around...and still bounced all over the sky especially yesterday coming back. All altitudes and all routes...that is a lot of unstable air.



Who bought out National?

I know much of Eastern Airlines' equipment ended up with Continental after the Lorenzo buyout, but what ever happened to National?
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Low to mid 90's this weekend.

#1372 Postby jasons2k » Fri May 09, 2008 12:11 pm

Maybe some storms to our W/NW later on? From Jeff Lindner:

C TX dry line setting up along the I-35 corridor this afternoon with weak southerly winds returning to SE TX adding surface moisture. Strong surface heating is making for a very unstable afternoon atmosphere…but capped off by a strong inversion. Short term models continue to insist that the cap will be breached and severe thunderstorms will rapidly develop after 300pm along I-35 and push ESE into our W and N counties this evening.

Concern is warranted given potential CAPE of 4000-5000 J/kg and strong deep layer shear given forecasted afternoon temps in the low to upper 90’s over C and SE TX. IF the cap is broken explosive supercell development will occur and SPC has upgraded the N and W parts of our area into a slight risk. Things will happen very quickly…ie from clear skies to severe/tornadic storms in 20-40 minutes if the cap is broken and surface instability released. Pattern and instability parameters are somewhat similar to the May 1997 tornado outbreak over C TX which produced the killer F5 Jarrell, TX tornado. Feel the storms that do develop…if any will be isolated…but could potentially be very dangerous. Will see how things unfold late this afternoon.

Weak cold front should move into a highly unstable/capped air mass late Saturday afternoon/evening. Once again if the cap is breached strong to severe thunderstorms appear likely given tremendous instability and modest shear. Best threat this go will be found N of I-10 and E of I-45 and may be more between midnight Saturday and 600am Sunday.
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#1373 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat May 10, 2008 7:25 am

After today's possible severe weather event, Sunday through Monday do not look half bad for it being nearly mid May...

Here is my latest NWS forecast:

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 83. North wind between 10 and 15 mph.

Sunday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 54. North wind around 5 mph.

Monday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 84. East wind between 5 and 10 mph.


54 degrees on Sunday night is pretty chilly for this time of the year!
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Hot.. Severe storms on Sat?

#1374 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat May 10, 2008 10:06 am

Something will have to really weaken the cap for Houston area to get in on today's t-storm action.

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Still a pretty stout cap forecast for Houston near peak heating per 12Z GFS:
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Wanna see a really stout forecast cap- get a load of the 0Z GFS
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I think Houston area will be hoping a thin line of showers, maybe storms will form right along and behind the front tomorrow morning. Maybe
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#1375 Postby southerngale » Sat May 10, 2008 12:07 pm

Zero chance of rain here today, with only 20% chance for tonight. Of course, it's rained with no chance before.

I went to the ballpark yesterday afternoon... it was like 600F with with only the occasional 1/2mph breeze... it was so freaking hot!! It felt like mid-summer heat. I poured cold water down my shirt... I felt better for a few seconds. :cheesy:
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#1376 Postby CajunMama » Sat May 10, 2008 2:25 pm

southerngale wrote:I poured cold water down my shirt... I felt better for a few seconds. :cheesy:


I bet you were popular with the dads! Image
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Hot.. Severe storms on Sat?

#1377 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat May 10, 2008 3:15 pm

Cap at 750 mb on special 18Z Lake Charles sounding suggests I-10 corridor Houston to Lafayette probably don't see thunderstorms this afternoon or evening.


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#1378 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat May 10, 2008 3:28 pm

We'll see..

The SPC still has us under a SLIGHT RISK ( http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html ), but considering their track record so far this season, I am not going to be convinced until I see the storms actually forming.
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#1379 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat May 10, 2008 3:48 pm

After the brief cooldown this Sunday and Monday, it looks like we could experience a longer lasting cooldown beginning sometime late next week..

THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK LOOKS INTERESTING. THE UPPER LOW IS
FORECAST TO EJECT EAST ACROSS TEXAS LATE WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY IN
ADVANCE OF AN UNSEASONABLY STRONG LONGWAVE TROUGH THAT IS FORECAST
TO DEVELOP OVER THE PLAINS STATES. THIS UPPER LOW IS FORECAST TO
TRACK FARTHER SOUTH THAN MOST OF THE SYSTEMS THIS SPRING SO
FAR. FLOW ALOFT BECOMES STRONGLY DIFFLUENT BY LATE WEDNESDAY AS SE
TX GOES INTO THE RIGHT REAR QUAD OF UPPER JET. PERSISTENT 30-40
KT LOW LEVEL JET WILL KEEP THE DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE IN PLACE.
HAVE NUDGED POPS UPWARD WED/WED NIGHT...WITH SLOW MOVING SFC FRONT
SERVING AS A FOCUS FOR CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT. MODEL FORECAST
SOUNDINGS SUPPORT POTENTIAL OF SEVERE AND LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL
AS ALLUDED TO IN THE HWOHGX. COLD FRONT PUSHES OFF THE COAST THU
MORNING...WITH AT LEAST A SHORT PERIOD OF DRYING TAKING PLACE.
BOTH GFS/ECMWF SHOW THE LONGWAVE TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED
REINFORCING COLD FRONT CROSSING THE CWA FRIDAY. DIFFLUENT FLOW
ALOFT AND COOLING MID LEVELS IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE TROUGH
SUPPORT SOME CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL FRIDAY. HAVE ADDED 20 POPS TO
FORECAST WITH STILL PLENTY OF TIME TO WATCH. THIS PATTERN CHANGE
WILL SUPPORT A COOLING TREND BEGINNING THURSDAY.
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#1380 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat May 10, 2008 5:00 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:We'll see..

The SPC still has us under a SLIGHT RISK ( http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html ), but considering their track record so far this season, I am not going to be convinced until I see the storms actually forming.


Its clouding up now at my house. A convective temperature of 107ºF means if the cap doesn't weaken, and there is no surface forcing, it will need to get pretty hot, but maybe the cap has weakened, or the sea-breeze front is stronger than usual.



The front itself may bring some rain even if the dryline storms never do. SPC just put up a watch for Central Texas, and a storm is popping over Tarrant County. Maybe that will fill in and build a cold pool that will force storms despite the cap.



Plus I just watered the lawn, usually good to trigger rain.
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