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Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:58 pm
by 869MB
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:This is incredible, thank you!
Anytime…I hope you find it useful going forward in the future.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:05 pm
by Ralph's Weather
harp wrote:As long as that SE ridge stays in place, I don’t know how far south that cold air will get. I stopped even looking at the GFS. It’s frustrating.
For LA, the SE ridge will slow the cold down. For us in Texas it will just keep the cold shallow. Early to mid Dec seems to be primed for a significant ice event in the Southern Plains.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:33 am
by Ntxw
Not a lot of change in thinking. A cold front/trof will cut into the mild period (DFW may still finish November below normal! NOAA) this week. Still believe a cold dump will occur past the first week, likely shallow driven by MJO movement and -EPO. Then we watch the blocking unfold and the Arctic go belly up (displaced way to the south). Late December 1990 has been popping up in the ensemble analogs.
In the coming days we will probably start seeing some wild runs of cold from the OP suites.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:47 pm
by Iceresistance
Ntxw wrote:Not a lot of change in thinking. A cold front/trof will cut into the mild period (DFW may still finish November below normal! NOAA) this week. Still believe a cold dump will occur past the first week, likely shallow driven by MJO movement and -EPO. Then we watch the blocking unfold and the Arctic go belly up (displaced way to the south). Late December 1990 has been popping up in the ensemble analogs.
In the coming days we will probably start seeing some wild runs of cold from the OP suites.
What happened in December 1990?
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:59 pm
by cheezyWXguy
No one mentioning the 12z gfs yet?
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:04 pm
by DallasAg
Ntxw wrote:Not a lot of change in thinking. A cold front/trof will cut into the mild period (DFW may still finish November below normal! NOAA) this week. Still believe a cold dump will occur past the first week, likely shallow driven by MJO movement and -EPO. Then we watch the blocking unfold and the Arctic go belly up (displaced way to the south). Late December 1990 has been popping up in the ensemble analogs.
In the coming days we will probably start seeing some wild runs of cold from the OP suites.
Going by memory of Dec 1990, seems like we had several smallish bouts of freezing drizzle and light snow during that period. Might've gotten down into the high single digits or very low teens. Compared to the cold blast the year prior it wasn't as severe, but this one actually had a little bit of moisture to work with so it made things a little more interesting.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:07 pm
by Ntxw
Iceresistance wrote:Ntxw wrote:Not a lot of change in thinking. A cold front/trof will cut into the mild period (DFW may still finish November below normal! NOAA) this week. Still believe a cold dump will occur past the first week, likely shallow driven by MJO movement and -EPO. Then we watch the blocking unfold and the Arctic go belly up (displaced way to the south). Late December 1990 has been popping up in the ensemble analogs.
In the coming days we will probably start seeing some wild runs of cold from the OP suites.
What happened in December 1990?
OKC
DFW
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:34 pm
by Itryatgolf
cheezyWXguy wrote:No one mentioning the 12z gfs yet?
Anything interesting on it?
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:35 pm
by Itryatgolf
Ntxw wrote:Iceresistance wrote:Ntxw wrote:Not a lot of change in thinking. A cold front/trof will cut into the mild period (DFW may still finish November below normal! NOAA) this week. Still believe a cold dump will occur past the first week, likely shallow driven by MJO movement and -EPO. Then we watch the blocking unfold and the Arctic go belly up (displaced way to the south). Late December 1990 has been popping up in the ensemble analogs.
In the coming days we will probably start seeing some wild runs of cold from the OP suites.
What happened in December 1990?
OKC
https://i.imgur.com/bDEyayg.png DFW
https://i.imgur.com/RtI3kGq.png https://i.imgur.com/YiBq9be.png
Supposed to be a decent -nao setting up and ao in the extended period
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:51 pm
by Ntxw
Itryatgolf wrote:Supposed to be a decent -nao setting up and ao in the extended period
Yeah we'll have a good -AO/-NAO. Strat PV has been deformed and splitting or elongated of late. May actually see that continue into January.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:56 pm
by TropicalTundra
Itryatgolf wrote:cheezyWXguy wrote:No one mentioning the 12z gfs yet?
Anything interesting on it?
Ice storm 270-300 hours out
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:59 pm
by Itryatgolf
TropicalTundra wrote:Itryatgolf wrote:cheezyWXguy wrote:No one mentioning the 12z gfs yet?
Anything interesting on it?
Ice storm 270-300 hours out
Makes since with cold and precipitation if the cold can press far enough south
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:34 pm
by bubba hotep
TropicalTundra wrote:Itryatgolf wrote:cheezyWXguy wrote:No one mentioning the 12z gfs yet?
Anything interesting on it?
Ice storm 270-300 hours out
Long duration overrunning event with a big ULL pumping a firehouse across Texas
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:47 pm
by Cpv17
I still would like to see the EPO ridge area displaced much further east from around Juneau towards the Beaufort Sea. That would be ideal for us.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:48 pm
by bubba hotep
That's an impressive 5-day look on the GEFS, cold air spilling all the way into Central America.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:58 pm
by Iceresistance
Cpv17 wrote:I still would like to see the EPO ridge area displaced much further east from around Juneau towards the Beaufort Sea. That would be ideal for us.
What about closer to the GoA?
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:07 pm
by Cpv17
Iceresistance wrote:Cpv17 wrote:I still would like to see the EPO ridge area displaced much further east from around Juneau towards the Beaufort Sea. That would be ideal for us.
What about closer to the GoA?
Ehhh, that wouldn’t be bad but that’s still a tad too far west but if it would stretch from there towards the Beaufort Sea that would probably work. Just need it stretch pretty far north so it could grab the air from the Polar/Artic regions.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:08 pm
by Brent
This pattern seems ripe for an ice storm unfortunately. Just look at the moisture feed of late. I'd say if there is a winter storm anytime soon it'll probably be ice. But maybe I'll be wrong... But I'd be surprised if we don't see more GFS runs showing it
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:28 pm
by harp
There’s that damn ridge again blocking the cold from coming east towards Louisiana.
Re: Texas Fall 2022
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:30 pm
by Iceresistance
Can the SE Ridge in the winter be named "The Anti-Winter Cockroach Ridge"?