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Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:30 pm
by Cpv17
Brent wrote:Thia pattern seems ripe for an ice storm unfortunately. Just look at the moisture feed of late. I'd say if there is a winter storm anytime soon it'll probably be ice. But maybe I'll be wrong... But I'd be surprised if we don't see more GFS runs showing it


Yeah the SE ridge might be peeking its nose in here. Need to keep it out!

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:35 pm
by Iceresistance
Cpv17 wrote:
Brent wrote:Thia pattern seems ripe for an ice storm unfortunately. Just look at the moisture feed of late. I'd say if there is a winter storm anytime soon it'll probably be ice. But maybe I'll be wrong... But I'd be surprised if we don't see more GFS runs showing it


Yeah the SE ridge might be peeking its nose in here. Need to keep it out!

We need to shoo away the Anti-Winter Cockroach Ridge! :lol:

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:40 pm
by Ntxw
Iceresistance wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Brent wrote:Thia pattern seems ripe for an ice storm unfortunately. Just look at the moisture feed of late. I'd say if there is a winter storm anytime soon it'll probably be ice. But maybe I'll be wrong... But I'd be surprised if we don't see more GFS runs showing it


Yeah the SE ridge might be peeking its nose in here. Need to keep it out!

We need to shoo away the Anti-Winter Cockroach Ridge! :lol:


Love/hate relationship with the SE ridge. Without it cold slides right off to our east. Too much of it leeches the warmth westward. Need a good -AO to dig the trough behind it for TX. A big block in northeastern Canada will shove the cold so far south though.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:24 pm
by Cpv17
Latest CPC forecast is showing temps well above average into December but still has some rain around. Not looking good per the CPC but they’ve been wrong several times before.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:51 pm
by Brent
Cpv17 wrote:Latest CPC forecast is showing temps well above average into December but still has some rain around. Not looking good per the CPC but they’ve been wrong several times before.


I'm still seeing a huge front here beyond next weekend but we'll see what happens. We all know how the week out forecasts have gone :lol: there seems to be a big question how much cold push there is. I'm very wait and see for sure

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:30 pm
by Cpv17
Brent wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Latest CPC forecast is showing temps well above average into December but still has some rain around. Not looking good per the CPC but they’ve been wrong several times before.


I'm still seeing a huge front here beyond next weekend but we'll see what happens. We all know how the week out forecasts have gone :lol: there seems to be a big question how much cold push there is. I'm very wait and see for sure


I agree. The NAO is gonna go off the charts negative. Just hope it’s enough to help push that cold air south but long range ensembles do show that happening so I’m hopeful.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:38 pm
by Iceresistance
Cpv17 wrote:
Brent wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Latest CPC forecast is showing temps well above average into December but still has some rain around. Not looking good per the CPC but they’ve been wrong several times before.


I'm still seeing a huge front here beyond next weekend but we'll see what happens. We all know how the week out forecasts have gone :lol: there seems to be a big question how much cold push there is. I'm very wait and see for sure


I agree. The NAO is gonna go off the charts negative. Just hope it’s enough to help push that cold air south but long range ensembles do show that happening so I’m hopeful.

Just looked at the CPC Teleconnections, the PNA is expected to go up to sub-negative when the NAO and AO become very negative in Early December. If the PNA is even more neutral/slightly positive, then prepare for a big one!

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:05 pm
by harp
18Z GFS takes away your ice storm after showing it for several runs.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:07 pm
by Iceresistance
harp wrote:18Z GFS takes away your ice storm after showing it for several runs.

There is still some Freezing Rain in South-Central Texas

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:16 pm
by Itryatgolf
Iceresistance wrote:
harp wrote:18Z GFS takes away your ice storm after showing it for several runs.

There is still some Freezing Rain in South-Central Texas


Keep in mind that this way past truncation. Not until 192 hours on in would we see it show up on models if it's going to happen.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:30 pm
by Iceresistance

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:40 pm
by harp
Itryatgolf wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
harp wrote:18Z GFS takes away your ice storm after showing it for several runs.

There is still some Freezing Rain in South-Central Texas


Keep in mind that this way past truncation. Not until 192 hours on in would we see it show up on models if it's going to happen.
What does that mean?

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:41 pm
by Iceresistance
harp wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:There is still some Freezing Rain in South-Central Texas


Keep in mind that this way past truncation. Not until 192 hours on in would we see it show up on models if it's going to happen.
What does that mean?

Still in the long range on when the winter weather may occur in the Southern Plains.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:53 pm
by Itryatgolf
Truncation is when the models lose tremendous accuracy, usually past 240-252. I think 192hrs is a good starting point imo

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:03 pm
by Cpv17


There’s merit to this because often times there’s a warmup before the hammer drops.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:15 pm
by Iceresistance
Cpv17 wrote:


There’s merit to this because often times there’s a warmup before the hammer drops.

The only question is how strong will the hammer drop?

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:20 pm
by Cpv17
Iceresistance wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:


There’s merit to this because often times there’s a warmup before the hammer drops.

The only question is how strong will the hammer drop?


Yeah that’s what I’m questioning too cuz I’m not really seeing anything too crazy on the ensembles for the south. Just has it getting a few degrees colder nothing crazy.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:26 pm
by Iceresistance
Cpv17 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
There’s merit to this because often times there’s a warmup before the hammer drops.

The only question is how strong will the hammer drop?


Yeah that’s what I’m questioning too cuz I’m not really seeing anything too crazy on the ensembles for the south. Just has it getting a few degrees colder nothing crazy.

Those few degrees can make all the difference for the weather coming into winter.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:37 pm
by Cpv17
Iceresistance wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:The only question is how strong will the hammer drop?


Yeah that’s what I’m questioning too cuz I’m not really seeing anything too crazy on the ensembles for the south. Just has it getting a few degrees colder nothing crazy.

Those few degrees can make all the difference for the weather coming into winter.


For your area and far NTX yeah.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:23 pm
by CaptinCrunch
Things will remain tranquil the next 2 weeks, with brief shots of cooler air coming in. The real story is what changes are coming around mid month?