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Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:39 pm
by Iceresistance
starsfan65 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:And just like that, the heavy rainfall risk for the Southern Plains is gone. This is getting extremely old, stupid Cockroach Death Ridge! :grr:
How is it gone?


No longer shows up on the CPC's heavy precip risk.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:57 pm
by weatherdude1108
Iceresistance wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:And just like that, the heavy rainfall risk for the Southern Plains is gone. This is getting extremely old, stupid Cockroach Death Ridge! :grr:
How is it gone?


No longer shows up on the CPC's heavy precip risk.


Ugh. I noticed that, too. It has the lighter shade of green/above normal precip (the lower above normal chance) as well, but still above normal at least.

I guess the silver lining, even it goes to "average" chances, it would be higher chances than we have seen the past month, from a climatological perspective.

ENSO/SOI really sucks right now.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:09 pm
by Brent
A high of 68 Saturday :double: it's been awhile

But yeah some rain would be nice. It tried last night and a few drops made it but yeah... Last real rain was the near flood when September started

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:10 pm
by Iceresistance
Brent wrote:A high of 68 Saturday :double: it's been awhile

But yeah some rain would be nice. It tried last night and a few drops made it but yeah...


Expecting 60°F here.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:34 pm
by Texoz
Ntxw wrote:DFW too is going through second stretch of such anomalous dry spell.

https://i.imgur.com/z7u2Bux.png

Tidbit...outside of 2015 and 1999 the following winters were pretty chilly on this list.


Kind of concerning that 50% of the longest dry spells over 100+ years have been since 1999.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:34 pm
by Iceresistance
Finally! It's raining outside!

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:31 pm
by Brent
Maybe it's just because it's been so hot lately but it's getting chilly tonight. Fall is definitely in the air. The wind is like a little preview of January

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:41 pm
by Iceresistance
Brent wrote:Maybe it's just because it's been so hot lately but it's getting chilly tonight. Fall is definitely in the air. The wind is like a little preview of January


I know! When it was raining and had a chilly north wind, I was wet and chillyish, but it was so worth it! :D

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:44 am
by bubba hotep
Welp... so much for a shift to a more traditional fall pattern. Looks like ensembles are reverting back to warm and dry for as far as they eye can see.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:47 am
by Iceresistance
bubba hotep wrote:Welp... so much for a shift to a more traditional fall pattern. Looks like ensembles are reverting back to warm and dry for as far as the eye can see.


This Cockroach Death Ridge is refusing to accept its fate. :grr:

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:10 pm
by Ntxw
bubba hotep wrote:Welp... so much for a shift to a more traditional fall pattern. Looks like ensembles are reverting back to warm and dry for as far as they eye can see.


To me the ensembles 500mb pattern doesn't look terrible. Med-long term the Aleutian ridge is replaced by a trof. It's very East-Coast centric with the trof though so at least we'll get seasonably cooler shots on its back edge. But the rain aspects never believed it. OLR out of the equatorial Pacific is bone dry. Even if there is a western trough, there's no moisture to link it.

Elsewhere some early signs of AO/NAO falling.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:09 pm
by Iceresistance
Got down to 43°F this morning, the lowest wind chill was 39°F.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:30 am
by Ntxw
DFW got really lucky with the deluge in late August. We'd be cranking top 10 driest years on record like many areas south of I-20.

October averages well over 4" of rain.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:37 am
by Iceresistance
Ntxw wrote:DFW got really lucky with the deluge in late August. We'd be cranking top 10 driest years on record like many areas south of I-20.

October averages well over 4" of rain.


Got some showers right now that are clipping me to the south.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:54 pm
by Brent
Hopefully some rain the next couple days.... The other big story seems to be possibly the coldest air of the season by Sunday and Monday next week. WeatherBug already has me around 40 :cold:

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:33 pm
by Ntxw
The signal for some west NAO blocking is getting more defined. That will help drive some of the colder air S.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:20 am
by bubba hotep
Ntxw wrote:The signal for some west NAO blocking is getting more defined. That will help drive some of the colder air S.


There are a number of things pointing to a -AO/NAO start to the winter. However, it seems like that is one of the trickier patterns to sniff out in the longer range. In the near term, it does look like a dip is coming with a legit below normal shot of cold air for N. TX. It looks to be a transient pattern with a pretty quick snap back to above normal. However, November has all the signs of a more persistent -AO/NAO patter but see the second sentence for my confidence level lol

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:26 am
by Ntxw
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The signal for some west NAO blocking is getting more defined. That will help drive some of the colder air S.


There are a number of things pointing to a -AO/NAO start to the winter. However, it seems like that is one of the trickier patterns to sniff out in the longer range. In the near term, it does look like a dip is coming with a legit below normal shot of cold air for N. TX. It looks to be a transient pattern with a pretty quick snap back to above normal. However, November has all the signs of a more persistent -AO/NAO patter but see the second sentence for my confidence level lol


I've come to terms that the Aleutian ridge is going to be a staple. I don't see a repeat of last Fall/Winter though. NPAC SSTs are too different. I do think we'll hear a lot more of the AO/NAO domain this winter like 2020.

Meanwhile agree with a good shot of cold air is probably coming, temperature wise October hasn't been too bad as it was looking beforehand.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:40 am
by Iceresistance
Ntxw wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The signal for some west NAO blocking is getting more defined. That will help drive some of the colder air S.


There are a number of things pointing to a -AO/NAO start to the winter. However, it seems like that is one of the trickier patterns to sniff out in the longer range. In the near term, it does look like a dip is coming with a legit below normal shot of cold air for N. TX. It looks to be a transient pattern with a pretty quick snap back to above normal. However, November has all the signs of a more persistent -AO/NAO patter but see the second sentence for my confidence level lol


I've come to terms that the Aleutian ridge is going to be a staple. I don't see a repeat of last Fall/Winter though. NPAC SSTs are too different. I do think we'll hear a lot more of the AO/NAO domain this winter like 2020.

Meanwhile agree with a good shot of cold air is probably coming, temperature wise October hasn't been too bad as it was looking beforehand.


Could we have a February 2021 all over again? Winter 2019-2020 was crazy with snow but the temperatures would not comply. Winter 2020-2021 was similar to Winter 2019-2020 with the snow potential, but the temperatures were crazy cold.

Re: Texas Fall 2022

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:04 am
by Itryatgolf
Ntxw wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The signal for some west NAO blocking is getting more defined. That will help drive some of the colder air S.


There are a number of things pointing to a -AO/NAO start to the winter. However, it seems like that is one of the trickier patterns to sniff out in the longer range. In the near term, it does look like a dip is coming with a legit below normal shot of cold air for N. TX. It looks to be a transient pattern with a pretty quick snap back to above normal. However, November has all the signs of a more persistent -AO/NAO patter but see the second sentence for my confidence level lol


I've come to terms that the Aleutian ridge is going to be a staple. I don't see a repeat of last Fall/Winter though. NPAC SSTs are too different. I do think we'll hear a lot more of the AO/NAO domain this winter like 2020.

Meanwhile agree with a good shot of cold air is probably coming, temperature wise October hasn't been too bad as it was looking beforehand.

Ntxw, I heard on twitter from a guy who posts there often that we are having persistent IO/MARITIME CONTINENT convection the reason the pna will remain positive. My question is, in winter, that is a very warm set up. Don't you think we want to see that convection shift before winter because phases4-6 are crazy warm phases for us