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Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:41 pm
by Captmorg70
Here in Ponder my front neighborhood street is pretty much a stream now. :raincloud:

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:47 pm
by Ntxw
The highest rain rates are now moving across the metroplex and northward. It's going to continue to fill in and pivot towards the center of low pressure. The airport may give a run at the wettest September on record tonight.

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:01 pm
by Cpv17
bubba hotep wrote:The HRRR is really doing poorly with this system tonight across DFW.


The HRR has been performing horribly lately.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:02 pm
by HockeyTx82
Captmorg70 wrote:Here in Ponder my front neighborhood street is pretty much a stream now. :raincloud:


Where in Ponder are you? I'm in Remington Park. Ponder outside of Denton, right?

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:03 pm
by Captmorg70
HockeyTx82 wrote:
Captmorg70 wrote:Here in Ponder my front neighborhood street is pretty much a stream now. :raincloud:


Where in Ponder are you? I'm in Remington Park. Ponder outside of Denton, right?


Yes, same neighborhood :D

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:05 pm
by rwfromkansas
Dang...already almost 2 inches in north Fort Worth. It rained heavy but I didn’t think it was THAT heavy.

Most of this in 30 minutes....

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:07 pm
by Haris
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:10 pm
by starsfan65
Ntxw wrote:The highest rain rates are now moving across the metroplex and northward. It's going to continue to fill in and pivot towards the center of low pressure. The airport may give a run at the wettest September on record tonight.

https://images2.imgbox.com/56/12/c49yBH9R_o.gif

where is the low pressure system now?

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:11 pm
by Ntxw
starsfan65 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The highest rain rates are now moving across the metroplex and northward. It's going to continue to fill in and pivot towards the center of low pressure. The airport may give a run at the wettest September on record tonight.

https://images2.imgbox.com/56/12/c49yBH9R_o.gif

where is the low pressure system now?


Post before yours, Haris answered it. It's basically going to be at a standstill for awhile.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:13 pm
by bubba hotep
This is looking really bad for DFW... I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the crazy model totals verify over the next 10 to 12 hrs.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:13 pm
by starsfan65
Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The highest rain rates are now moving across the metroplex and northward. It's going to continue to fill in and pivot towards the center of low pressure. The airport may give a run at the wettest September on record tonight.

https://images2.imgbox.com/56/12/c49yBH9R_o.gif

where is the low pressure system now?


Post before yours, Haris answered it. It's basically going to be at a standstill for awhile.
how long this low is be on that standstill?

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:16 pm
by Ntxw
starsfan65 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:where is the low pressure system now?


Post before yours, Haris answered it. It's basically going to be at a standstill for awhile.
how long this low is be on that standstill?


It will meander around where it is now until tomorrow evening. Perhaps be slightly east/southeast but still pulling back rain. The front has become stationary in NTX.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:20 pm
by Ntxw
Here is the discussion from the WPC

Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0877
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
1005 PM EDT Fri Sep 21 2018

Areas affected...Dallas-Fort Worth Metro Area

Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding likely

Valid 220204Z - 220630Z

Summary...Dangerous and life-threatening flash flooding is
developing in the immediate Dallas-Ft. Worth Metro Area this
evening. Persistent thunderstorms and heavy rain are likely to
lead to significant rainfall totals. Rain rates should reach (or
locally exceed) 3 in/hr in the strongest rain bands and
thunderstorms.

Discussion...Significant flash flooding is just beginning to
develop in North Texas, and specifically the immediate Dallas-Ft.
Worth metro area. An increasing concentration of thunderstorms and
heavy convective rain bands are expected during the evening very
near a developing surface low. Hi-res models had originally
projected this to be a little further west, but 01Z surface
observations showed the lowest pressures over Tarrant County, as
well as a coherent circulation to the surface winds. The hi-res
models were insistent that the heaviest rain would be concentrated
in the immediate vicinity of the surface low, and perhaps just to
the north-northeast, where low-level confluence will be maximized
(low -topped convection could thus be increasingly channeled into
this area). This would also be an area on the northern cusp of
broad southerly inflow and situated right in the middle of a
bubble of deep moisture. Therefore, the expectation is that the
hi-res models generally assessed the heavy rainfall potential with
this feature correctly, it will just end up being shifted further
east, and into the DFW metro area. GPS-PW observations in the
region were around 2.4 inches, significant values and above the
99th percentile in the regional climatology. The expectation of an
increasing concentration of convection in the immediate vicinity
of DFW metro is also implied by remote sensing data, with KFWS
radar and GOES-16 satellite showing these trends well.

Accounting for the low ZDR bias at KFWS still implies numerous
small droplets in the convective rain bands when examining the
dual pol datasets. The overall environment (very high PW and
MLCAPE over 500 j/kg) will support highly efficient rain
production, and this is confirmed by the dual pol data. This sort
of environment would make 3+ in/hr rain rates achievable in large,
relatively steady-state, and slow-moving convective bands. Several
mesonet sites in the vicinity of Plano have already reported rain
rates around 2 in/hr and some water rescues were reported in
Denton County. The expectation of significant rain rates
persisting for (at least) several hours over a large urban area
suggests that dangerous, life-threatening flash flooding will
continue to develop this evening. Radar trends also suggest this
flooding could affect a large portion of the DFW metro area and
surrounding counties, and thus travel could become increasingly
difficult with numerous flooded and impassible roads, particularly
dangerous at nighttime. Therefore, this focused mesoscale
precipitation discussion has been issued to highlight this
enhanced threat for dangerous flash flooding.

Lamers

ATTN...WFO...FWD...OUN...

ATTN...RFC...ABRFC...LMRFC...WGRFC...

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:26 pm
by bubba hotep
Wow, 75 Closed!

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:27 pm
by somethingfunny
Ntxw wrote:The highest rain rates are now moving across the metroplex and northward. It's going to continue to fill in and pivot towards the center of low pressure. The airport may give a run at the wettest September on record tonight.

https://images2.imgbox.com/56/12/c49yBH9R_o.gif


That batch over Collin County managed to shut down US 75 with 2 feet of water underneath Plano Parkway. Maybe the construction is a factor but I've never seen that highway flood before... Thank goodness there's a lull over that area right now because many cars became stranded. People need to get off the roads, round 2 is coming... Also thankful that this didn't hit during rush hour traffic. This rain is furious.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:29 pm
by Ntxw
:uarrow: The radar can be deceiving. At a glance it just looks like a good rainstorm filled in, but in reality the pwats are very high. Even the lighter reflectivity is pouring down an inch per hour rates no less the much higher reflectively. The column above is highly saturated.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:33 pm
by rwfromkansas
Is the low where that hole is of no current rain over FW?

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:35 pm
by Ntxw

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:42 pm
by rwfromkansas
That Keller stuff went through here first. 2.5 inch/hr rate. Insane.

Re: Texas Fall 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:43 pm
by gboudx
In Rockwall were getting 1”/hr rates. Gonna see lots of ant mounds popping up.