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#41 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:17 pm

It's just north of I-40 Exit 138.

They need to throw a tornado warning for Oklahoma County.
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#42 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:20 pm

OUN, unlike most other offices, won't usually issue a tornado warning for wall clouds or funnel clouds or weak-moderate rotation, unless there is something quite imminent with it. They usually wait until its about on the ground.
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#43 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:21 pm

jkt21787 wrote:OUN, unlike most other offices, won't usually issue a tornado warning for wall clouds or funnel clouds or weak-moderate rotation, unless there is something quite imminent with it. They usually wait until its about on the ground.


That's dangerous, especially at night. If it touches down in a developed area suddenly, it could be deadly...
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#44 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:22 pm

yeah they just changed the tornado warning to a svr. T-storm warning for canadian county. I don't understand why they would do that with such an active looking storm.
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#45 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:25 pm

OUN, while by far most conservative, is by far the best. They have tons of stuff no other NWS offices even has. The cell is losing structure too so they made a good call. They can upgrade if need be.
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#46 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:58 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:OUN, unlike most other offices, won't usually issue a tornado warning for wall clouds or funnel clouds or weak-moderate rotation, unless there is something quite imminent with it. They usually wait until its about on the ground.


That's dangerous, especially at night. If it touches down in a developed area suddenly, it could be deadly...


The big reason for that is the cutting edge technology and the number of chasers out of the OKC/Norman area. They have technology 5 years before anyone else does. They have more storm chasers/spotters in OKC area than any other. Probably more than the next closest 3 combined. The news channels in okc alone have more than a half dozen chasers each each station also has at least one helicopter and I think channel 9 and channel 4 have 2 helicpoters.
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#47 Postby soonertwister » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:10 pm

Something totally impressive about this El Reno tornado tonight is that it was anticyclonic, which is extremely rare. Even more rare was that it was an intense anticyclone, which to me looked likely to be an F4.

First strong anticyclone I've ever seen on video.
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#48 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:17 pm

soonertwister wrote:Something totally impressive about this El Reno tornado tonight is that it was anticyclonic, which is extremely rare. Even more rare was that it was an intense anticyclone, which to me looked likely to be an F4.

First strong anticyclone I've ever seen on video.

F4?! You are kidding, right?

The storm barely did any damage to the airport. F1 probably, maybe low end F2, though that's highly up for debate depending on the airport hangar's structural integrity. Tornado never got wider than a few dozen yards either.
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#49 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:23 pm

F4????? Ummmm more like an F1...maybe an F2
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#50 Postby soonertwister » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:33 pm

We are obviously talking about two different tornadoes. The one I saw was a LOT bigger than a few dozen yards, and was definitely rotating faster than an F2.

Whether or not it's the one that hit the airport, I couldn't tell you. I was listening to internet audio when I watched the view on TV.
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#51 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:51 pm

yeah the damage to the airport looked to be from 80-100mph winds. I would estimate that it was an F1.
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#52 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:01 pm

soonertwister wrote:We are obviously talking about two different tornadoes. The one I saw was a LOT bigger than a few dozen yards, and was definitely rotating faster than an F2.

Whether or not it's the one that hit the airport, I couldn't tell you. I was listening to internet audio when I watched the view on TV.



Ummm no, there were two tornadoes in elreno area today. One was itty bitty maybe not even on the ground and the other was an F1...F2 at best...There wasn't an F4 in the state tonight, hell even the strong one down by the red river will probably turn out to be a strong F2 weak F3 and that was late this evening. The one in el reno was weak relatively speaking.
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#53 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:03 pm

Watching vids now of the El Reno storm, they just said F1 damage and I'm watching the vid right now its clearly NOWHERE near an F4.
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#54 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:22 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
soonertwister wrote:Something totally impressive about this El Reno tornado tonight is that it was anticyclonic, which is extremely rare. Even more rare was that it was an intense anticyclone, which to me looked likely to be an F4.

First strong anticyclone I've ever seen on video.

F4?! You are kidding, right?

The storm barely did any damage to the airport. F1 probably, maybe low end F2, though that's highly up for debate depending on the airport hangar's structural integrity. Tornado never got wider than a few dozen yards either.


I'd say it was an F1 or maybe even an F0 - they are not very strong structures.
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#55 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:03 am

It didn't even take off the entire roof of the hanger so it I doubt it'll be anything higher than an F1.
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#56 Postby SamSagnella » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:38 pm

The first El Reno tornado was by far the bigger one, and though I was not close enough to see the ground-level circulation, I'm pretty sure it didn't hit anything but some trees. The second El Reno tornado, which was a classic anticyclonic trucated cone, has officially been rated an F1 from the roof damage it did to the El Reno Airport. We witnessed what appeared to be a third tornado as the supercell cycled back up about ten minutes later but it may have just been a funnel cloud -- we're reviewing the video.
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