Discussion (May 18-19-20-21) Moore Tornado EF-5 from NWS

#541 Postby **RL3AO** » Mon May 20, 2013 8:46 pm

Most frustrating thing, much like April 27, is that the system worked today. SPC did great. NWS Norman did great. TV mets did great. What else can you do?

#542 Postby **MGC** » Mon May 20, 2013 8:49 pm

The 2003 Moore tornado was an F-3. I got to see it. It came down real quick and got rain wrapped. The one today seems to have gone from a minimal tornado to a very violent tornado is a very short time. At least during the 1999 tornado there was plenty of time to seek shelter.....MGC

Cyclenall · #543 Postby **Cyclenall** » Mon May 20, 2013 8:49 pm

The death toll will likely be similar to Joplin's EF5, its going up fast. Obviously the deadliest tornado since then. Will this be a billion dollar tornado? I say yes.

I'm hearing that the lead time of the tornado warning was about 8-12 minutes while the one in May 3, 1999 was 1 hour...a surprise like Joplin then. This won't look good when those questions will start to be asked but I think this came up extremely fast.

#544 Postby **RL3AO** » Mon May 20, 2013 8:54 pm

Cyclenall wrote:I'm hearing that the lead time of the tornado warning was about 8-12 minutes while the one in May 3, 1999 was 1 hour...a surprise like Joplin then. This won't look good when those questions will start to be asked but I think this came up extremely fast.

NWS Norman says a tornado warning was issued 16 minutes before the tornado touched down.

artist · #545 Postby **artist** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:07 pm

KFOR another survivor found

#546 Postby **CrazyC83** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:08 pm

RL3AO wrote:
Cyclenall wrote:I'm hearing that the lead time of the tornado warning was about 8-12 minutes while the one in May 3, 1999 was 1 hour...a surprise like Joplin then. This won't look good when those questions will start to be asked but I think this came up extremely fast.

NWS Norman says a tornado warning was issued 16 minutes before the tornado touched down.

Joplin had almost no lead time. In this case, a high-end tornado was clearly on the ground about 10 minutes before hitting Moore.

#547 Postby **brunota2003** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:20 pm

Cyclenall wrote:The death toll will likely be similar to Joplin's EF5, its going up fast. Obviously the deadliest tornado since then. Will this be a billion dollar tornado? I say yes.

I'm hearing that the lead time of the tornado warning was about 8-12 minutes while the one in May 3, 1999 was 1 hour...a surprise like Joplin then. This won't look good when those questions will start to be asked but I think this came up extremely fast.

This storm went from no echoes on the radar to tornadic in less than 30 minutes.

#548 Postby **Texas Snowman** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:24 pm

@TWCBreaking: 9:21pm CDT: Structural damage reported in downtown Poteau, OK, near the Arkansas border. #severe

#549 Postby **gboudx** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:25 pm

apocalypt-flyer wrote:
Stephanie wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:The supercell southwest of DFW has barely moved the past few hours and it's still looking healthy right now.

I hope that it starts to weaken very soon. All of those people around that game will be in big trouble!

It's almost stationary and feeding off of all the energy surrounding it. Very discreet system. Could be quite the flashflood-procuder for Brownwood county.

NWS radar estimates show over 12" northwest of Brownwood due to cell training. And it's stil going.

artist · #550 Postby **artist** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:27 pm

bad weather is moving into the area there now.

#551 Postby **Texas Snowman** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:50 pm

Wow!

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@WxNick: "Eerie - today's noon wx balloon from Norman showed a "match" to the Topeka balloon from the day of Ruskin Heights tornado 56 yrs ago today."

#552 Postby **CrazyC83** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:00 pm

We have at least one more day of this...

EF-5bigj · #553 Postby **EF-5bigj** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:05 pm

Unfortunately

#554 Postby **ravyrn** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:17 pm

Was reviewing today's storm reports... was there really a tornado in South Central Colorado? That entire is almost entirely mountainous except for a very narrow valley near Alamosa.

#555 Postby **cycloneye** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:18 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:We have at least one more day of this...

You think it may be another Moderate Risk day?

EF-5bigj · #556 Postby **EF-5bigj** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:29 pm

What is the convective outlook?

southerngale · #557 Postby **southerngale** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:31 pm

My aunt lives in Blanket, TX and they had THREE tornado warnings over about about a three hour period this evening. Blanket is about halfway between Brownwood and Comanche. A school in Blanket was hit by a tornado earlier, but nothing like in Moore. They spent hours in the basement. Thank God they're ok! My heart goes out to everyone in Moore and I just can't stomach what happened at the schools.

southerngale · #558 Postby **southerngale** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:33 pm

cycloneye wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:We have at least one more day of this...

You think it may be another Moderate Risk day?

This is the convective outlook for tomorrow.

EF-5bigj · #559 Postby **EF-5bigj** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:35 pm

I'm going to take moderate out looks very seriously now.

artist · #560 Postby **artist** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:44 pm

southerngale wrote:My aunt lives in Blanket, TX and they had THREE tornado warnings over about about a three hour period this evening. Blanket is about halfway between Brownwood and Comanche. A school in Blanket was hit by a tornado earlier, but nothing like in Moore. They spent hours in the basement. Thank God they're ok! My heart goes out to everyone in Moore and I just can't stomach what happened at the schools.

glad they were ok, southergale.

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