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wxguy25 wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:LOL. What will this mean in terms of the overal pattern of things?
it means the current pattern w/ a trough in the west and ridge over the central and EUS in the means will reverse if that warm water gets into the Gulf Of Alaska. It signals the negative phase of the Eastern Pacific Oscillation (EPO) and the Onset of a mostly Positive PNA pattern.
Wnghs2007 wrote:wxguy25 wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:LOL. What will this mean in terms of the overal pattern of things?
it means the current pattern w/ a trough in the west and ridge over the central and EUS in the means will reverse if that warm water gets into the Gulf Of Alaska. It signals the negative phase of the Eastern Pacific Oscillation (EPO) and the Onset of a mostly Positive PNA pattern.
Ok thanks.
Wnghs2007 wrote:LOL PNA=? Like what does the P..... N...... A.... Pacific? or something like that. Sorry for the not so wise.
yoda wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:wxguy25 wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:LOL. What will this mean in terms of the overal pattern of things?
it means the current pattern w/ a trough in the west and ridge over the central and EUS in the means will reverse if that warm water gets into the Gulf Of Alaska. It signals the negative phase of the Eastern Pacific Oscillation (EPO) and the Onset of a mostly Positive PNA pattern.
Ok thanks.
Wouldn't a positive PNA and a negative NAO increase the chances of snowfall in the East? Or does this depend on the EPO? By the way, what is the EPO?
Wnghs2007 wrote:LOL PNA=? Like what does the P..... N...... A.... Pacific? or something like that. Sorry for the not so wise.
Alright
Just list out as many winter terms as you know. Tell us there real name and not abbrieviated and what they mean. LOL Sorry to be so blunt but I need a lesson.
wxguy25 wrote:yoda wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:wxguy25 wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:LOL. What will this mean in terms of the overal pattern of things?
it means the current pattern w/ a trough in the west and ridge over the central and EUS in the means will reverse if that warm water gets into the Gulf Of Alaska. It signals the negative phase of the Eastern Pacific Oscillation (EPO) and the Onset of a mostly Positive PNA pattern.
Ok thanks.
Wouldn't a positive PNA and a negative NAO increase the chances of snowfall in the East? Or does this depend on the EPO? By the way, what is the EPO?
Absolutely. A +PNA / -NAO together produces the coldest possible pattern for the EUS. Its also those times where the EUS trough can reach near extreme amplitudes.
tronbunny wrote:So these absolutely gorgeous days in sunny FL are near their end?
I have to say, we have been spoiled.
That graphic puts us on the edge of increased precipitation.
I don't like that. I want a REAL dry season, this year.
I just want to wipe the memory of the tropical season away.
Jeb wrote:We finally managed to eke out a high of 64 degrees today, and now we have another -NAO to contend with? WOW, I'm really cold here in N VA and beginning to believe we may have to put up with that cold -NAO right through the fall into and through the winter.
The heat bills are going to be absolutely horrific here in the East this winter. I know folks down south have had to suffer through summerlike humidity the last 2 to 3 weeks, but at least they won't have to fork over trailers full of hard-earned money to the heating companies. If you own a heating company, you are positioned to make a fortune this winter. It has been plain CHILLY to downright COLD most of October. I have been living in N VA for over 30 years, and I have never, ever seen SO MUCH PERSISTENT CLOUDINESS!! It seems as though it has been cloudy to rainy nearly every day this month.
I am so darn tired of this cold weather, that I wish I could go down to Australia's Outback where I know it's getting nice and toasty by now, and where I know that they (the Australians) are not having to suffer the gut-wrenching anguish of enduring colder than normal temps under cloudy, drizzly skies day after day, after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day. It just goes on and on. I'm getting depressed, because of all the clouds all the time. This is getting ridiculous. Are we gonna have to put up with that dratted negative NAO for the next five months? This is completely insane! If I was living in Newfoundland, I could understand it. But I live in northern Virginia! I am tired of the negative NAO. I am tired of clouds, I am tired of rain, and I am tired of it staying ten degrees below normal every day. The weather is supposed to have ups and downs, but this October, all we've seen are downs. Clouds, rain, drizzle, temps consistently ten degrees below average here, and sharply rising energy costs.
A cold snow-filled winter can be fun but there are other things in life besides a stubborn negative NAO and ridiculously chilly cloudy weather all the time in northern Virginia.
If we were gonna have a 1997-98 type El Nino this winter with corresponding mild weather in the east, I would beside myself with joy!!
But this cloudy cold weather and endless -NAO is ridiculous and uncalled for. Some of us are reasonable and would like a break in the insane -NAO once in a while!
MAN I am SO tired of the cold already!!!
Oh someone please send me down to Belize!!! I heard they have highs in the upper 90s with dewpoints in the low/mid 80s!!!
Our weather is so messed up it's sad. It's not supposed to be chilly and cloudy with a -NAO all the time. I've been around long enough to know that.
yoda wrote:Wnghs2007 wrote:Ok Call of to the weather gods and tell them I would like 4 +PNA/ -NAO pizzas with extra snow sprinkled on top and a jar full of ice.
wxguy25 wrote:Jeb wrote:We finally managed to eke out a high of 64 degrees today, and now we have another -NAO to contend with? WOW, I'm really cold here in N VA and beginning to believe we may have to put up with that cold -NAO right through the fall into and through the winter.
The heat bills are going to be absolutely horrific here in the East this winter. I know folks down south have had to suffer through summerlike humidity the last 2 to 3 weeks, but at least they won't have to fork over trailers full of hard-earned money to the heating companies. If you own a heating company, you are positioned to make a fortune this winter. It has been plain CHILLY to downright COLD most of October. I have been living in N VA for over 30 years, and I have never, ever seen SO MUCH PERSISTENT CLOUDINESS!! It seems as though it has been cloudy to rainy nearly every day this month.
I am so darn tired of this cold weather, that I wish I could go down to Australia's Outback where I know it's getting nice and toasty by now, and where I know that they (the Australians) are not having to suffer the gut-wrenching anguish of enduring colder than normal temps under cloudy, drizzly skies day after day, after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day. It just goes on and on. I'm getting depressed, because of all the clouds all the time. This is getting ridiculous. Are we gonna have to put up with that dratted negative NAO for the next five months? This is completely insane! If I was living in Newfoundland, I could understand it. But I live in northern Virginia! I am tired of the negative NAO. I am tired of clouds, I am tired of rain, and I am tired of it staying ten degrees below normal every day. The weather is supposed to have ups and downs, but this October, all we've seen are downs. Clouds, rain, drizzle, temps consistently ten degrees below average here, and sharply rising energy costs.
A cold snow-filled winter can be fun but there are other things in life besides a stubborn negative NAO and ridiculously chilly cloudy weather all the time in northern Virginia.
If we were gonna have a 1997-98 type El Nino this winter with corresponding mild weather in the east, I would beside myself with joy!!
But this cloudy cold weather and endless -NAO is ridiculous and uncalled for. Some of us are reasonable and would like a break in the insane -NAO once in a while!
MAN I am SO tired of the cold already!!!
Oh someone please send me down to Belize!!! I heard they have highs in the upper 90s with dewpoints in the low/mid 80s!!!
Our weather is so messed up it's sad. It's not supposed to be chilly and cloudy with a -NAO all the time. I've been around long enough to know that.
Im well aware of the energy situation in the east, but theres not much you can do about it.
As far as Belize goes, you dont want to mess around with that kind of heat and humidity. trust me, you will want to leave. two years ago My Wife and I took a vacation to the equatorial regions of Brazil in the Tocantins and Maranhao Provinces so I know first hand.
Come to Florida. No snow, Some cold but not extreme heat like the aforesaid.
Jeb wrote:I love Florida. It's a beautiful place.................but I can't even begin to hack the hurricanes. I am scared to death of them. I would never be able to deal with 4 canes hitting Florida in one season. So, I visit Florida but am afraid to live there because of those hurricanes. They are NO fun.
) to 02. Got a trace of snow 1 or 2 times in Canberra, got 4/5 inches a couple times in Bonn. Come back here, get legendary 02-03 winter. Trust me, if you come from a snowy place and go to a snowless place, you really miss the snow. BTW, florida is nice, but I wouldn't like to live there. My favorite part is the Tampa area. Other great tropical areas are The Great Barrier Reef (SOOOO NICE!!! THE CLUB MED IS AWESOME TOO!) Bali (the rich parts), The Bahamas, Cayman Islands, and Southern Spain (Mediterranean but still great). Mexico is ok in the resort areas of the Yucatan. 
wxguy25 wrote:I've been to Germany twice. Ramstien to be exact.
I don't Like Florida that much either, (the cost of Living is higher here than it was up there for someone in my income bracket) although it’s not so bad since im beachside along A1A. My wife likes it here though, so I doubt ill be going anywhere anytime soon.
Personally, I would much rather be back in the NY/NJ area which is where I was Born and Raised. Florida is too warm for my liking and Im not sure if I can take another snowless winter down here. LOL
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