2012 - March 2nd / 3rd - after the storm

[Bunkertor]

I thought i make this thread for pics vids, reports and investigation.



EF4 or 5
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux4T9IlWbMY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-4gGOvELc[/youtube]

[brunota2003]

NWS Jackson, KY:

Information on Friday's Tornadoes

We will post information regarding the Friday March 2, 2012 tornadoes on this page. Check back frequently for the latest information as National Weather Service storm damage survey teams survey the possible tornado tracks.

3/2/2012 7:45 am EST: Tornado tracks from Friday March 2nd. NWS storm damage survey teams will survey these areas this weekend to make a determination on tornado intensity.

Tracks in RED indicate a reported tornado. Tracks in Purple indicate possible tornado tracks as indicated by radar.

[cycloneye]

This aerial view is from Marysville,Indiana. Is astonishing to see that kind of devastation that IMO was caused by an EF-4,but we will know later in an official way which category it was.

[cycloneye]

This is how that very powerful tornado turned the town of Saleysville,that is east of West Liberty.Hopefully,we will know more about the possible casualties that may have occured in this town and in West Liberty.

[cycloneye]

And this is in West Liberty. Look at the radar signature of this tornado here. (Scroll up a little bit) I keep saying IMO it was a EF-4,but the NWS will determine that later.

[cycloneye]

When I saw this news of a babygirl found 10 miles from her home,I didn't believe it.She is in critical condition in Salem,Indiana Hospital.

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/03/0 ... r-tornado/

[cycloneye]

Aerial view of West Liberty.Wow,look how extensive is the devastation there.

[WeatherGuesser]

CBS News slideshow of aerial images

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-201_162-10011527.html

One shot from there of Marysville, IN

[brunota2003]

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON KY
801 PM EST SAT MAR 03 2012

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0705 PM TORNADO 4 W EAST BERNSTADT 37.19N 84.19W
03/02/2012 LAUREL KY NWS STORM SURVEY

*** 5 FATAL *** A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN 4.3 MILES WEST OF
EAST BERNSTADT AND MOVED NORTHEAST BEFORE LIFTING 3.6
MILES NNE OF EAST BERNSTADT. PATH LENGTH WAS 6.3 MILES.
THE TORNADO LIFTED AT 712 PM EST.


&&

$$

SBH

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON KY
928 PM EST SAT MAR 03 2012

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0539 PM TORNADO 2 SW MARIBA 37.89N 83.60W
03/02/2012 MENIFEE KY NWS STORM SURVEY

*** 8 FATAL *** A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN 2 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF MARIBA AND MOVED EAST ACROSS MENIFEE AND MORGAN
COUNTIES FOR 34 MILES. THIS TORNADO HIT WEST LIBERTY
KENTUCKY AND REACHED A MAXIMUM STRENGTH OF EF3. THERE
WERE 2 FATALITIES IN MENIFEE COUNTY AND 6 FATALITIES IN
MORGAN COUNTY.


&&

$$

SBH

...EF3 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN MENIFEE AND MORGAN COUNTIES IN KENTUCKY...

A STORM DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE
IN JACKSON KENTUCKY HAS CONFIRMED AN EF-3 TORNADO IN MENIFEE AND
MORGAN COUNTIES ON MARCH 2 2012. TOUCHDOWN OCCURRED ABOUT 2 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF MARIBA IN MENIFEE COUNTY AT 539 PM EST. THE TORNADO
MOVED EAST...AND HIT WEST LIBERTY AT ABOUT 558 PM EST...CAUSING
EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE TORNADO CONTINUED EAST
ACROSS MORGAN COUNTY BEFORE EITHER LIFTING OR MOVING OUT OF MORGAN
COUNTY AT ABOUT 612 PM EST. THE EXACT END POINT FOR THIS TORNADO IS
YET TO BE DETERMINED.

EVENT DATE: MARCH 2 2012
EVENT TYPE: EF-3
TORNADO ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS: 140 MPH
INJURIES/FATALITIES: 2 FATALITIES IN MENIFEE COUNTY AND 6 FATALITIES
IN MORGAN COUNTY
EVENT START TIME/LOCATION: 539 PM EST AT 37.905022N/83.614639W
EVENT END TIME/LOCATION: YET TO BE DETERMINED
DAMAGE PATH LENGTH: 34 MILES IN MENIFEE AND MORGAN COUNTIES
DAMAGE WIDTH: MAXIMUM 1 MILE WIDTH

...EF2 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN LAUREL COUNTY KENTUCKY...

A STORM DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE
IN JACKSON KENTUCKY HAS CONFIRMED AN EF-2 TORNADO IN LAUREL COUNTY ON
MARCH 2 2012. TOUCHDOWN OCCURRED ABOUT 4.3 MILES WEST OF EAST
BERNSTADT AND THE TORNADO LIFTED ABOUT 3.6 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF
EAST BERNSTADT. WINDS WERE ESTIMATED TO HAVE REACHED 125 MPH. THIS
TORNADO DAMAGED OR DESTROYED SEVERAL RESIDENCES AND CAUSED 5 FATALITIES.

EVENT DATE: MARCH 2 2012
EVENT TYPE: EF-2 TORNADO
ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS: 125 MPH
INJURIES/FATALITIES: 5 FATALITIES
EVENT START TIME/LOCATION: 705 PM EST AT 37.197228N/84.194806W
EVENT END TIME/LOCATION: 712 PM EST AT 37.235781N/84.091847W
DAMAGE PATH LENGTH: 6.3 MILES
DAMAGE WIDTH: 310 YARDS

Prior to this year, the last F3/EF3 tornado to have affected any of the 33 Kentucky counties served by the Jackson National Weather Service Forecast Office was in 1988. On May 10, 1988 an F3 tornado hit downtown Middlesboro in Bell County and caused extensive damage.

Salyersville area:







Source:
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cm ... 5&source=0

Note: This link is being updated as more pictures and storm survey info come in.

[brunota2003]

3/3/2012 1045 PM EST

...EF3 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN MAGOFFIN AND JOHNSON COUNTIES AND EF2
TORNADO CONFIRMED IN MARTIN COUNTY...

A STORM DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE
IN JACKSON KENTUCKY HAS CONFIRMED A LONG TRACKED TORNADO MOVED ACROSS
MAGOFFIN...JOHNSON AND MARTIN COUNTIES ON MARCH 2 2012. THE TORNADO
WAS RATED EF3 INTENSITY IN MAGOFFIN AND JOHNSON COUNTIES AND EF2 IN
MARTIN COUNTY. THIS TORNADO CROSSED THE TUG FORK RIVER NEAR BEAUTY
KENTUCKY AND MOVED INTO WEST VIRGINIA BEFORE ENDING. TOUCHDOWN
OCCURRED ABOUT 1 MILE EAST OF CUTUNO IN MAGOFFIN COUNTY AROUND 651 PM
EST. THE TORNADO MOVED EAST...AND HIT SALYERSVILLE AT EF3 STRENGTH
AROUND 703 PM EST...CAUSING EXTENSIVE DAMAGE. THE TORNADO THEN MOVED
EAST NORTHEAST MAINTAINING EF3 INTENSITY...AND LIKELY REACHED ITS
MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 160 MPH IN JOHNSON COUNTY. THE TORNADO BECAME
WEAKER AS IT MOVED INTO AND ACROSS MARTIN COUNTY...WITH MAXIMUM
INTENSITY IN MARTIN COUNTY AT EF2. THE TORNADO EXITED KENTUCKY AROUND
738 PM EST.

EVENT DATE: MARCH 2 2012
EVENT TYPE: EF-3
TORNADO ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS: 160 MPH
INJURIES/FATALITIES: 2 FATALITIES IN JOHNSON COUNTY
EVENT START TIME/LOCATION: 651 EST AT 37.717317N/83.219967W
EVENT END TIME/LOCATION IN KENTUCKY: 738 PM EST 37.832617N/82.403883W
DAMAGE PATH LENGTH IN KENTUCKY: 45 MILES
DAMAGE WIDTH: MAXIMUM WIDTH 0.75 MILES

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON KY
1021 PM EST SAT MAR 03 2012

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0651 PM TORNADO 1 E CUTUNO 37.72N 83.22W
03/02/2012 MAGOFFIN KY NWS STORM SURVEY

*** 2 FATAL *** A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN 1 MILE EAST OF
CUTUNO AND MOVED EAST ACROSS MAGOFFIN...JOHNSON AND
MARTIN COUNTIES KENTUCKY BEFORE MOVING INTO WEST
VIRGINIA. THIS TORNADO CAUSED EXTENSIVE DAMAGE IN
MAGOFFIN AND JOHNSON COUNTIES AND REACHED MAXIMUM
STRENGTH OF EF3. THERE WERE 2 FATALITIES IN JOHNSON
COUNTY.


&&

$$

SBH

[CrazyC83]

In some ways, it could have been much worse.

If those EF3s were 4s or 5s, they would not have been survivable in normal circumstances without a basement. Instead of 15 deaths or so in the region, it could have been 50 to 100 easily. Usually in lower-rated tornadoes, the fatalities are in weaker structures or in improper situations (i.e. not taking shelter at all). That is what separates them from the Joplins and Tuscaloosas.

Some of those couplets looked to be much worse than what the ratings were found to be.

[brunota2003]

A lot of the people in those areas live in mobile homes. And it is very difficult to get anything above an EF3 in those areas...it is mountainous.

[CrazyC83]

A lot of the people in those areas live in mobile homes. And it is very difficult to get anything above an EF3 in those areas...it is mountainous.

True, most likely most of the fatalities were in mobile homes yesterday. In those big ones last year, not that many of the deaths were in mobile homes - most were in solid houses or businesses which are still no match for an EF5 tornado.

[brunota2003]

A lot of the people in those areas live in mobile homes. And it is very difficult to get anything above an EF3 in those areas...it is mountainous.

True, most likely most of the fatalities were in mobile homes yesterday. In those big ones last year, not that many of the deaths were in mobile homes - most were in solid houses or businesses which are still no match for an EF5 tornado.

You mentioned basements...yes, there are also more basements there than down south. Down south/coastal areas, holes in the ground flood very quickly, whereas in Kentucky, the ground is much better for building into...so that could be a factor in the fairly low death toll, too.

[Bunkertor]

Chelsea, IN chopper video.

http://www.wthr.com/video?autoStart=tru ... Id=6804038

[Cyclenall]

Some of those couplets looked to be much worse than what the ratings were found to be.

This also goes along with the question of why did every other tornado warning have something like "Debris Ball" and "Tornado Emergency" when normally that type of wording only comes up once or twice a year? Seriously, there must have been 25+ of those.

[RL3AO]

Some of those couplets looked to be much worse than what the ratings were found to be.

This also goes along with the question of why did every other tornado warning have something like "Debris Ball" and "Tornado Emergency" when normally that type of wording only comes up once or twice a year? Seriously, there must have been 25+ of those.

Its pretty obvious the use of "tornado emergency" has gotten quite liberal the past few years.

As for debris ball, I just think its the hip phase after 4/27.

[WeatherGuesser]

Yet the term 'debris ball' may be a fallacy.

I'm seeing discussions where the term was used in reference to a radar signature, yet when people drive through the area, they find nothing. Not even broken tree branches.

[Dave]

Radar imagery for the Holton Indiana tornado. Left picture is at 3:52 pm & right is at 3:56 pm. (NWS Wilmington OH radar)

[Dave]

From the ground in Holton: