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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#61 Postby jasons2k » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:09 am

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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#62 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:56 pm

Somehow I suspect that this dry trend going on now is going to be temporary. I think mid-late June is going to shift back to a wetter state. It seems that models are indicating that moisture levels will begin to increase starting next week.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#63 Postby jasons2k » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:29 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:Somehow I suspect that this dry trend going on now is going to be temporary. I think mid-late June is going to shift back to a wetter state. It seems that models are indicating that moisture levels will begin to increase starting next week.

Probably so. I’m imminently breaking ground on a new pool so I need it to dry out some. Not something I would usually ever would wish for, especially in summer, but this is a special (selfish) circumstance. I want my pool more than more rain right now.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#64 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:35 pm

Soil moisture is really saving us right in a bubble. The western US and midwest drought is fueling massive heat domes in those areas and they are experiencing feedback.

Given the proximity of the potential massive heat domes nearby I suspect we may see some short bouts of hot temperatures this summer but nothing sustained due to the wet soils and recent rainfall at least through mid season. The ridges have oomph to them due to the extreme drought in the southwest.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#65 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:38 am

Ntxw wrote:Soil moisture is really saving us right in a bubble. The western US and midwest drought is fueling massive heat domes in those areas and they are experiencing feedback.

Given the proximity of the potential massive heat domes nearby I suspect we may see some short bouts of hot temperatures this summer but nothing sustained due to the wet soils and recent rainfall at least through mid season. The ridges have oomph to them due to the extreme drought in the southwest.


I remember you bringing this up years ago and I completely agree with this theory. The soil moisture, the green landscape continuing to pump moisture into the air, will prevent a heat dome from forming over Texas this month. Hopefully there can be another wet period for a few days within the next couple weeks, and this trait can hold all summer.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#66 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:03 am

We are considering a trip to the upper Midwest in July to escape the heat. Lol. It may be hotter there.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#67 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:24 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Soil moisture is really saving us right in a bubble. The western US and midwest drought is fueling massive heat domes in those areas and they are experiencing feedback.

Given the proximity of the potential massive heat domes nearby I suspect we may see some short bouts of hot temperatures this summer but nothing sustained due to the wet soils and recent rainfall at least through mid season. The ridges have oomph to them due to the extreme drought in the southwest.


I remember you bringing this up years ago and I completely agree with this theory. The soil moisture, the green landscape continuing to pump moisture into the air, will prevent a heat dome from forming over Texas this month. Hopefully there can be another wet period for a few days within the next couple weeks, and this trait can hold all summer.


Yes. I remember in one of the meteorology courses I took that a forecaster should be cognizant of the surrounding terrain because it can affect the daily afternoon temperatures. If the landscape is greener than normal, temperatures can be a few degrees cooler in the summer than if the landscape is browner. Also, a lot of atmospheric moisture originates from the local ground.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#68 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:14 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Soil moisture is really saving us right in a bubble. The western US and midwest drought is fueling massive heat domes in those areas and they are experiencing feedback.

Given the proximity of the potential massive heat domes nearby I suspect we may see some short bouts of hot temperatures this summer but nothing sustained due to the wet soils and recent rainfall at least through mid season. The ridges have oomph to them due to the extreme drought in the southwest.


I remember you bringing this up years ago and I completely agree with this theory. The soil moisture, the green landscape continuing to pump moisture into the air, will prevent a heat dome from forming over Texas this month. Hopefully there can be another wet period for a few days within the next couple weeks, and this trait can hold all summer.


Over the years of just summer watching and through reading various papers, there's about two dominant/semi permanent ridges in the summer time. The Sonoran (southwest desert) and the Bermuda (Atlantic driven) ridges that permeate back and forth. Their strength and duration is often a seesaw depending on several things including feedback from drought. During heavy stricken drought years in Texas both ridges likes to flex over us and linger which creates the extremely hot summers. When the region is wet and ample soil moisture they tend to get beaten down and are transient over the state.

So to get the heat waves from these ridges, when in doubt follow drought.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#69 Postby jasons2k » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:32 am

Morning update from Jeff Lindner:

Impressive heat ridge of high pressure is building over the SW US and will continue to build into the weekend and next week with heights of potentially 600dm located over portions of Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico. This ridge extends NE into the US central plains with SE TX on the east/southeast side of the heat dome. This high pressure ridge will influence our weather into the weekend, but then begins to retreat toward the W and NW by late in the weekend and early next week allowing disturbances to approach from the NE as early as Sunday afternoon with increasing chances of showers and thunderstorms. Will have to keep an eye on this period as sometimes these “NE flow” event can produce some strong and severe thunderstorms over the region.

Gulf of Mexico Late Next Week:
There is and has been “lots” of talk about the potential for some sort of tropical system to form in the southern Gulf of Mexico late next week. Global model solutions continue with the 00Z runs to show surface low pressure forming in the southern Gulf of Mexico toward the middle to end of next week and then moving generally northward. This system appears to evolve from the current area of disturbed weather in the Eastern Pacific south of Mexico. While there is a lot to be worked out on the “when” and “where” and “how organized” there continues to be enough consistency in the guidance to signal that something may develop. Regardless of development a significant surge of tropical moisture looks at least possible toward the NW Gulf/Texas by the end of next week with at the very least an increase in rain chances. For now something to monitor in the coming days.

A good reminder we are in hurricane season and now is a good time to make sure your plans and kits are fully stocked and ready for any potential threats that we may face this season.

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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#70 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:37 pm

18z 3k NAM and latest HRRR both show the Oklahoma MCS making a run at North Texas late tonight into tomorrow morning.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#71 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:47 pm

bubba hotep wrote:18z 3k NAM and latest HRRR both show the Oklahoma MCS making a run at North Texas late tonight into tomorrow morning.

Bueno. Hopefully the cap can break down just enough for the storms. I'm already counting the days until the first fall front in September.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#72 Postby DonWrk » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:49 am

bubba hotep wrote:18z 3k NAM and latest HRRR both show the Oklahoma MCS making a run at North Texas late tonight into tomorrow morning.


She survived! Packing a punch too.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#73 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:08 am

DonWrk wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:18z 3k NAM and latest HRRR both show the Oklahoma MCS making a run at North Texas late tonight into tomorrow morning.


She survived! Packing a punch too.


Not what I expected the radar to look like this morning!

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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#74 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:40 am

12z FWD sounding showed a huge CAP in place but nearly 4,000 CAPE! So these storms have plenty of fuel to tap into as long as they can access it.

Looking South as the storms move in.

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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#75 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:49 am

Models... both the 06z 3K NAM and the 09z HRRR showed these storms dying before reaching DFW lol

ETA: Technically, it looks like storms did miss the airport, so no official rainfall recorded for these storms. Also, they just spit a massive outflow and collapsed as they moved out of Collin County.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#76 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:30 am

Died before getting here, but some coolness from the clouds is a win.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#77 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:32 pm

About 95 degrees today in my area. Summer is here now.
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#78 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:46 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:I wanted to let you guys know that I have moved to Denver Colorado! Actually more in Lakewood but whatever. I will still be active in this board and interested in Texas weather so I'm not leaving entirely, just wanted to let you guys know!

Yes, stick around and join us from time to time. Good luck to you up there and in the meantime fire up the Colorado thread!!!
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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#79 Postby aggiecutter » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:18 pm

Where did this come from. The high today was supposed to be 94. I've double checked. That is not a mistake. You can feel it when you walk outside.

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Re: Texas Summer 2021

#80 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:40 pm

aggiecutter wrote:Where did this come from. The high today was supposed to be 94. I've double checked. That is not a mistake. You can feel it when you walk outside.

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From my posts above you can tell this ridge is very powerful being fed by the exceptional drought out west. 600dm heights is mid to late summer material in the hottest dog days. If not for the rain recently we'd all be well over 100!
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