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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#621 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:27 am

Euro tries to be a little interesting Thanksgiving morning out west of DFW

But the big day 10 storm went poof and it's much warmer then. Yeah I don't think these models have a clue yet. Zero consistency
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#622 Postby wxman57 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:12 am

Brent wrote:Euro tries to be a little interesting Thanksgiving morning out west of DFW

But the big day 10 storm went poof and it's much warmer then. Yeah I don't think these models have a clue yet. Zero consistency


The models aren't handling the faster, more progressive pattern well. They keep trying to bring cold air down across Texas but they are failing. My wall is strong along the Canadian border. I installed a diverter to send all really cold air eastward vs. south to Texas this winter.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#623 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:22 am

gpsnowman wrote:
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Brent wrote:Euro tries to be a little interesting Thanksgiving morning out west of DFW

But the big day 10 storm went poof and it's much warmer then. Yeah I don't think these models have a clue yet. Zero consistency


The models aren't handling the faster, more progressive pattern well. They keep trying to bring cold air down across Texas but they are failing. My wall is strong along the Canadian border. I installed a diverter to send all really cold air eastward vs. south to Texas this winter.

Hey Gorby, tear down your wall!!!! The unification of the Arctic and south Texas is inevitable.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#624 Postby wxman57 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:29 am

gpsnowman wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
The models aren't handling the faster, more progressive pattern well. They keep trying to bring cold air down across Texas but they are failing. My wall is strong along the Canadian border. I installed a diverter to send all really cold air eastward vs. south to Texas this winter.

Hey Gorby, tear down your wall!!!! The unification of the Arctic and south Texas is inevitable.


My wall is stronger than ever this year. Nothing will penetrate it (barring a fire-breathing dragon...).

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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#625 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:59 am

wxman57 wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:

Hey Gorby, tear down your wall!!!! The unification of the Arctic and south Texas is inevitable.


My wall is stronger than ever this year. Nothing will penetrate it (barring a fire-breathing dragon...).

http://wxman57.com/images/wall.JPG



See that opening at the bottom of your wall... Those are my guys heading in with enough incendiary devices to make this area look like the plains. :blowup:
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#626 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:02 am

We're all watching the PNA, Heat Miser is trying to make it either more Positive or Negative than Neutral!

Extreme model consistency for the AO & NAO to become Negative, & the PNA for the next few days, but after that for the PNA is anyone's guess.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#627 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:10 am

Iceresistance wrote:We're all watching the PNA, Heat Miser is trying to make it either more Positive or Negative than Neutral!

Extreme model consistency for the AO & NAO to become Negative, & the PNA for the next few days, but after that for the PNA is anyone's guess.
PNA is the one to watch next week.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#628 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:33 am

I haven't had much time to look at the data but at a quick glance the iss looks to be a less than ideal EPO. Hard to drive cold air south down the Plains without a solid -EPO especially this early in the season. The --NAO will give a storm to someone but that someone is likely NE of Texas.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#629 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:24 pm

CMC 3rd run in a row to feature snow in the same general time frame for the Southern Plains
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#630 Postby Texas Snowman » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:46 pm

wxman57 wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:

Hey Gorby, tear down your wall!!!! The unification of the Arctic and south Texas is inevitable.


My wall is stronger than ever this year. Nothing will penetrate it (barring a fire-breathing dragon...).

http://wxman57.com/images/wall.JPG


After the way your “wall” performed in February, I’d probably ask for my money back. :D :froze:
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#631 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:19 pm

Big snowstorm up here Thanksgiving Night into Friday on the Euro :double: :double: :double:

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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#632 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:38 pm

It's 9 days out, fellas. With that said, as stated yesterday, the models are going to produce runs where large trough dig much further south due to the blocking. Def something to watch.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#633 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:11 pm

A bit more ensemble support today for the 12z Euro solution. I remain skeptical, simple b/c this is more an El Nino looking storm system at 192 but the higher heights across the Great Lakes seem to support the solution. (Side bar - Can anyone point to a paper that discusses the climatology of cool season cutoff lows in the SW US?)

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Also, given the nature of the blocking in the NAO region, I wouldn't be surprise to see this take a more southerly track vs. cutting towards the Ohio Valley, if it were to verify at 192.

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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#634 Postby HockeyTx82 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:59 pm

So should I go ahead and cancel the bounce house for the 27th?
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#635 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:43 pm

18z GFS has jumped with the 12z Euro for the Cold, but no Snow yet.



And it's only November
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#636 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:56 pm

KWTV is "Watching this closely"

KFOR is calling it with highs near Freezing with Snow Thanksgiving Day & Black Friday.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#637 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:06 pm

I think and hope this first block near Greenland can cause chaos in the arctic for sometime.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#638 Postby Ntxw » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:18 pm

I would not be surprised at all to see the trends toward a powerhouse storm around Thanksgiving.

Big -NAO retrogression will allow storms to dig and really wind up since it slows the flow down dramatically. We've already seen some potent systems swing out (remember the severe weather outbreaks this fall?) with numerous wind warnings and advisories the past month or two. What this tells us is the background environment is favoring deepening systems as they come out of the west. And for the most part, at varying intervals, the west NAO blocking regime hasn't really left.
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#639 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:35 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:I think and hope this first block near Greenland can cause chaos in the arctic for sometime.


Yes, the GEFS is showing an Extremely Negative NAO for quite some time
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Re: Texas Fall 2021

#640 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:44 pm

Ntxw wrote:I would not be surprised at all to see the trends toward a powerhouse storm around Thanksgiving.

Big -NAO retrogression will allow storms to dig and really wind up since it slows the flow down dramatically. We've already seen some potent systems swing out (remember the severe weather outbreaks this fall?) with numerous wind warnings and advisories the past month or two. What this tells us is the background environment is favoring deepening systems as they come out of the west. And for the most part, at varying intervals, the west NAO blocking regime hasn't really left.


It’s beginning to look like someone’s wall is showing serious cracks…. :firedevil:
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