Large part of US below normal temps this past year

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Re: Large part of US below normal temps this past year

#21 Postby Sanibel » Thu May 28, 2009 10:27 am

Is TD #1 the sign of an expanding season or just better equipment?
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#22 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu May 28, 2009 10:16 pm

Better technology IMO...before 1980s or some recent time
there were probably 2-3 non-detected storms a year.
1 in April-June; 1-2 later on.
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#23 Postby gigabite » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:39 pm

TD1 2009 was a normal occurrence.
It was an analog system that is generated when the New Moon’s latitude was where it was in 1972.

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... rack_s.gif

It was in fact a weaker system than in 1972, but it went more north than east. That in it self could indicate a season that is stronger than 1972, because the shear is lower. 1972 has a very low storm count.
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Re: Large part of US below normal temps this past year

#24 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:51 pm

Heat advisory Florida. Temperatures to reach near record highs this week.
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Re: Large part of US below normal temps this past year

#25 Postby gigabite » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:42 pm

A portion of the problem is not anthropogenic.

Luminescence does not necessarily relate to heat. An increase in Sunspot activity will increase the size of the Sun, and the output of mass which will in turn increase cloudiness by causing water vapor trapped in the stratosphere to fall.

Sunspot number: 0
Updated 20 Jun 2009
Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 3 days
2009 total: 134 days (78%)
Since 2004: 645 days
Typical Solar Min: 485 days
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Re: Large part of US below normal temps this past year

#26 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:07 am

Seattle broke a record high low temperature yesterday. The previous record was 69*. It was 71* last night.

Seattle has never had a 100 degree reading. They expect to break it today and tomorrow with some spots hitting 105*.

There's a drought occurring there as well. Olympia has only had .1 since May. Less than Mesa, Arizona.
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Re: Large part of US below normal temps this past year

#27 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:36 am

Funny how a cooling trend over the last decade and cooler temperatures managed to create a record average temperature in the oceans. A report says the oceans have never been warmer than they currently are.
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#28 Postby gigabite » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:53 am

1. Since real time data has only been available since 1993 “never” is an infinitesimal time span geologically.

2. According to the TAO data source 2007 was warmer.

3. There has been a 2 degree centigrade rebound in sea surface temperatures since 2008.

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/cgi-tao/cover. ... oy-jsd.csh
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Re: Large part of US below normal temps this past year

#29 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:10 am

I think most honest posters would see that the time period we are talking about is the relevant period of man's CO2 influence on Earth which is mostly the industrial age which accompanied a huge population surge.

If you attempted to escape this fact by referencing irrelevant Earth periods of long ago coolers would be the first ones to call you on it.

The significance here is obviously that 'denialist' type personalities were violating the same idea you present and trying to use a one decade period to say Global Warming was a hoax. My point was SST's could not "rebound", as you say, without proving Earth was still warming. 2 centigrade is a significant amount.
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#30 Postby gigabite » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:18 am

My point is that global warming Global Warming is a factor of Celestial Mechanics. It has been shown that some hard carbon pollution is actually protecting us from cooking off completely. Also the link above shows that the 2 degree swing in sea surface temperatures in kind of a biennial thing Which is, I suspect is the result of the short one year, long the next year orbital distance.
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