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2 storms at once??

#1 Postby jusforsean » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:51 pm

Here's an odd question that came up today. Is it at all possible or has it ever happened where 2 storms hit somewhere at the same time? For example lets say theres a storm tracking west in the Atlantic heading to south Florida and there's a storm in the carrib heading to south fl both with different points of entry but both slamming the state and each other at just about the same time. I know its far fetched but is it possible or scientifically not?
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#2 Postby trugunz » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:54 pm

There was but not same state. I think one hit Texas and another hit Florida at same time
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#3 Postby linkerweather » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:55 pm

in 2004, TS bonnie hit the panhandle about 15 hours before CHarley hit SW Florida
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#4 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:09 pm

In 1992, TS Lester in the EPAC made landfall in Arizona just a few hours before Andrew hit South Florida.
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#5 Postby TampaSteve » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:25 am

linkerweather wrote:in 2004, TS bonnie hit the panhandle about 15 hours before CHarley hit SW Florida


My mother-in-law's name is Bonnie...back in 2004, we were joking about her vacationing in the Panhandle...at least until Charley took that sudden turn to the right...she lives in Punta Gorda... :eek:
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#6 Postby gerrit » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:07 am

Brent wrote:In 1992, TS Lester in the EPAC made landfall in Arizona..


Landfall in Arizona?? Did they move the ocean or Arizona? :roll:
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#7 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:15 am

gerrit wrote:
Brent wrote:In 1992, TS Lester in the EPAC made landfall in Arizona..


Landfall in Arizona?? Did they move the ocean or Arizona? :roll:


He is right as Lester went to Arizona as a weakening Tropical Storm.

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#8 Postby TampaSteve » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:45 am

gerrit wrote:
Brent wrote:In 1992, TS Lester in the EPAC made landfall in Arizona..


Landfall in Arizona?? Did they move the ocean or Arizona? :roll:


Technically, Lester made landfall in Mexico, but first touched the United States in Arizona.
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#9 Postby O Town » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:13 am

Interesting question jusforsean. I think what he meant was if two storms coming from opposite directions hit the same area of FL. at the same time like this.
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I would think whatever caused the west coast storm to turn to hit the state would also keep the east coast storm at bay and not allow it hit the same area. I don't think it would be scientifically possible, but maybe someone else could explain it better.
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#10 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:43 am

O Town wrote:I would think whatever caused the west coast storm to turn to hit the state would also keep the east coast storm at bay and not allow it hit the same area. I don't think it would be scientifically possible, but maybe someone else could explain it better.


Bingo - a front, which is practically required for a storm to hit SW FL, would also sweep the storm to hit the east coast out there. Below is the closest I can easily see anything coming to this happening. Of course, fi the pink storm was a little closer or faster than the red one, then yes, it could happen, though landfalls would not occur at the same time.

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Of course, Fujiwhara would also probably make this entire concept of two storms hitting the same state impossible.
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#11 Postby jusforsean » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:32 am

Would make for a great movie though!
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#12 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:34 am

TampaSteve wrote:
linkerweather wrote:in 2004, TS bonnie hit the panhandle about 15 hours before CHarley hit SW Florida


My mother-in-law's name is Bonnie...back in 2004, we were joking about her vacationing in the Panhandle...at least until Charley took that sudden turn to the right...she lives in Punta Gorda... :eek:


Hey so does my uncle.. but, he purchased his out post Charlie.
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#13 Postby Aslkahuna » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:59 pm

Not only was Lester the first named storm of 1992 to enter the US (coming in ahead of Andrew) but we had wind gusts up to 78mph here in Sierra Vista from that storm so it still had some punch-in one of those ironies of Nature, the trough the recurved Lester was the same one that recurved Andrew. Incidentally, for a storm moving up the Sea of Cortés it's only about 1-2 hours before it comes into AZ if it landfalls on the delta.

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#14 Postby Scorpion » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:10 pm

How does a storm hitting Baja Mexico and moving up into Arizona not dry out and weaken almost immediately upon landfall? I mean, its moving right into some of the driest areas of the continent.
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#15 Postby kevin » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:49 pm

They are not that dry. They just don't experience much rain. Humidity can be high in deserts.
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#16 Postby Aslkahuna » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:13 pm

Late August is right at the end of the peak of the monsoon here so dewpoints are usually pretty high (70's and 80's along the Mexican coast with warm water in the Sea of Cortés-also Lester was accelerating as the storm turned NE so the weakening trend was offset by the movement of the storm. Rainfall from Lester which occurred for about 7 hours totalled 3-6 inches in the local area. EPAC stroms and their remnants can be very wet at times. In reality, the Sonoran Desert is just barely desert based upon average rainfall.

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#17 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:53 am

Wouldn't the two do a Fujiwhara?
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