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Well.. if some people think the GFS and EURO are smoking crack.. take a look at what the 12Z ETA does with Ivan:):). btw... J.B. in his afternoon update says whatever is left of Ivan will reach the Coastal Mid Atlantic tomorrow Night then start South then Southwestard along the coast back into the Northern Gulf :).. let the debate begin:):) He also says Jeanne will pass thru or under Florida into the Central Gulf next week
ETA takes Jeanne, kills her over Cuba. Takes Ivan through North Carolina, back over the ocean, where he strengthens and is shoved south by a ridge, at around 84 hours. Lol... back torwards... you guessed it!