2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#101 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon May 18, 2020 10:06 am

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#102 Postby GCANE » Tue May 19, 2020 6:34 am

Slight chance of a warm core in the BOC about 135 hrs out according to Navy and UK models.
GFS showing a diving, negative-tilt trough with 1010 mb surface pressure.
High CAPE with high TPW coming in from the Pacific over the Isthmus of Tehuantepec.
355K PV looks like there is an open door.
Watching the future model runs.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#103 Postby GCANE » Tue May 19, 2020 5:09 pm

12Z GFS now showing a possible BOC warm core.
Models honing in on sometime Sunday.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#104 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 19, 2020 6:14 pm

ECMWF shows a nice wave in the MDR. I say nice for being early June.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#105 Postby toad strangler » Tue May 19, 2020 7:56 pm

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#106 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm

The EPS appears to have several members showing development in either the east Pacific, Caribbean, GoM, or western Atlantic in the day 10-15 range. I honestly wouldn't rule out Bertha before June 1.

https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/mi ... 1200z.html
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#107 Postby SFLcane » Tue May 19, 2020 10:30 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:The EPS appears to have several members showing development in either the east Pacific, Caribbean, GoM, or western Atlantic in the day 10-15 range. I honestly wouldn't rule out Bertha before June 1.

https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/mi ... 1200z.html


Indeed! Just a few of those members

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#108 Postby TheProfessor » Tue May 19, 2020 11:23 pm

SFLcane wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:The EPS appears to have several members showing development in either the east Pacific, Caribbean, GoM, or western Atlantic in the day 10-15 range. I honestly wouldn't rule out Bertha before June 1.

https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/mi ... 1200z.html


Indeed! Just a few of those members

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https://i.imgur.com/W8vPbbh.png


Then there's member 49 that would just be insane. It has a storm sitting in a Gulf for a while before finally hitting Louisiana.


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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#109 Postby SFLcane » Wed May 20, 2020 6:32 am

For now EPAC is favored in EPS and GEFS.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#110 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed May 20, 2020 7:25 am

SFLcane wrote:For now EPAC is favored in EPS and GEFS.

https://i.imgur.com/cxrOlvp.png

Not surprised, only a few of those 50 members or so on yesterday’s 12z run showed development on the Atlantic side. It could always flip.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#111 Postby GCANE » Wed May 20, 2020 8:08 am

06Z GFS now has a surface low offshore of Honduras Tuesday.
My take away is that it looks like models are trying to hone in on something around the Yucatan early next week.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#112 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 20, 2020 8:58 am

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#113 Postby Ubuntwo » Wed May 20, 2020 10:18 am

06z GFS has a few possible nodes of development, including a couple possible atlantic subtropical systems and a CAG disturbance.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#114 Postby SFLcane » Wed May 20, 2020 1:56 pm

Long rang gfs still showing development heading north from the Carib. At this time it could be either basin.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#115 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed May 20, 2020 2:44 pm

SFLcane wrote:Long rang gfs still showing development heading north from the Carib. At this time it could be either basin.

https://i.imgur.com/tZlWXWO.jpg

This solution is not out of the realm of possibility as there will be the mjo in phase one and a CCKW coming through around then but development could also be in the EPAC which is more normal for June but if I’m a betting man I would say a western Caribbean development around the last week of the month or early June
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#116 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Wed May 20, 2020 3:32 pm

The 12z EPS spawns a few scattered lows on the Atlantic side by next week, although there is a far greater concentration in the EPAC at the moment.
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If not then, then I would look towards mid-June for further development.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#117 Postby Steve » Wed May 20, 2020 9:00 pm

It's all getting believable for something in early June, so seeing the models come on board validates them a little (well obviously not if a storm doesn't verify, but...) to me. MJO looks to either rotate back counterclockwise through 4/5/6/7/8/1/2 again in like 2 weeks (so say June 3/4ish) or possibly even shortcut back across the circle from 6 at least toward 2 per the JMA. 2 weeks is a pretty short time early in the season to be on a watch for something. But we'll see.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#118 Postby aspen » Wed May 20, 2020 9:06 pm

The Euro and CMC pick up on a tropical wave north of the Greater Antilles at ~200 hrs out. While the Euro has some increased vorticity, the CMC tries to develop it into a TC.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#119 Postby cainjamin » Wed May 20, 2020 10:03 pm

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GFS has what looks like twins starting around the 200 hour mark - spins something up from the CAG as well as a spin-off of the system the CMC and ECMWF are showing as well. System east of Bermuda appears to hit TS strength before it weakens.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#120 Postby cainjamin » Wed May 20, 2020 10:14 pm

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GFS then strengthens the Caribbean system into a hurricane in the Bahamas.
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