Tropical Wave East of Lesser Antilles

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#121 Postby Riptide » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:47 pm

Rarely a mention without model support, could be a sleeper system.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#122 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:53 pm

That convection will probably force its own Low and you'll see the models come on board fast.


Persistent convection usually doesn't twist like that in the Hurricane Belt without forming.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#123 Postby chaser1 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:01 pm

:uarrow: ...in most years :lol:
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#124 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:02 pm

Lower level convergence on the increase:

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#125 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:12 pm

Has more convergence than invest 99L and definitely looks better than 99L so this definitely needs to be watched as it could ba a problem for the lesser antilles if it develops and by the looks of it it could become a tropical storm whether in a few days or in the Caribbean.

I do have a question, if this does develop and become something of significence would this go north of the islands and out to sea or will it go into the Caribbean

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#126 Postby YoshiMike » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:20 pm

Was wondering that too. I am new so I am not trying to ask a ton of questions LOL. But this storm is starting to look good. I think the NHC gave up on it a little too early
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#127 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:25 pm

Not to mention that it seems like some banding features on the south side and possibly some inflow there too

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#128 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:28 pm

gatorcane,the 12z Euro at least has something from this but doesn't develop right?
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#129 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:48 pm

Cycloneye, yes it is showing something at the surface in 24 hours though no development on the last run, moves it generally WNW to a position just east of the Northern Leewards in 96 hours:

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#130 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:49 pm

Well,one example of a system that had ZERO model support and that was a major cane Michael of 2012. A caveat is it was in the subtropical area but anyway no model saw it.
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#131 Postby stauglocal » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:06 pm

I've been watching this wave and wondering why there isn't an invest at the very least. Convection has been firing for at least 24 hours. Sleeper in the works IMO.
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#132 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:16 pm

stauglocal wrote:I've been watching this wave and wondering why there isn't an invest at the very least. Convection has been firing for at least 24 hours. Sleeper in the works IMO.


Didn't Dean and Felix in 2007 have similar model support, they barely had closed lows in the models for those so maybe{God Forbid} we have a similar situation here where something significant develops but is not modeled as much more than a wave

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#133 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:45 pm

Check out the deep wave coming out of Africa.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#134 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Sanibel wrote:Check out the deep wave coming out of Africa.


Yeah I noticed they moved the floater over to that one. Looks impressive.

Saved image before the sun goes down, this is a very nice looking wave - cloud tops warming some but has held deep convection since last night, let's see if it builds some more convection tonight during DMAX:

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#135 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:49 pm

stauglocal wrote:I've been watching this wave and wondering why there isn't an invest at the very least. Convection has been firing for at least 24 hours. Sleeper in the works IMO.
I think that qualifies it as an area of disturbed weather at the very least. According to what I read in a book several years ago, any area of thunderstorms which maintains its identity for a minimum of 24 hours is an area of disturbed weather. Then again, the definition of what constitutes such an area may have changed.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#136 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:51 pm

I have news. :) A low was added at the 18z surface analysis.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#137 Postby beoumont » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:17 pm

Maybe the NHC forecaster on duty didn't mention the disturbance at 37 west because it has been moving nearly 30 mph.

The disturbance (large mid-level swirl) that eventually became Hurricane Elena in 1985 came across the Atlantic at nearly 30 mph; then finally became a depression between Cuba and Haiti as it slowed down to 22 mph.

But this is rare.
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#138 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:42 pm

18Z GFS still not enthusiastic. Gradually winds down the convection over the next 48 hours.
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#139 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:15 pm

Guys the environment ahead of this very nice looking wave is very hostile. GFS is predicting strong westerly winds as it approaches the islands. I'd also like to mention kelvin wave could also be contributing to convection. If this is still holding together tomorrow morning it might get a mention but i just see how this being a threat but we shall see.

Are we in peak? :double:
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#140 Postby WPBWeather » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:45 pm

SFLcane wrote:Guys the environment ahead of this very nice looking wave is very hostile. GFS is predicting strong westerly winds as it approaches the islands. I'd also like to mention kelvin wave could also be contributing to convection. If this is still holding together tomorrow morning it might get a mention but i just see how this being a threat but we shall see.

Are we in peak? :double:


Actually, this looks quite GOOD for this system for the next few days...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/TCFP/da ... FP_024.gif
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