Gulf Coast Disturbance (early August)

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#121 Postby bamajammer4eva » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:52 pm

Alyono wrote:for the first time, the Canadian is developing this

UKMET has dropped it in favor of development east of Florida. Of course, Canadian develops BOTH


Canadian showing at least some consistency since the 12z showed something similar

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This is the same timeframe on the 00z for next Thur morning. It develops the NE gulf system and already moved it well inland with a 2nd system inbound for later on.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#122 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:12 am

Gfs doesn't do much, it just lingers
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#123 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:12 am

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Last 4 Tropical outlooks keep nudging this eastward towards the Atlantic. Wasnt it said latest UKMET favored this developing in the Atlantic instead of the gulf? Most models seem to randomly place Lows so anything may be possible!

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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SAT AUG 6 2016

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical
Storm Earl, located near Veracruz, Mexico.

1. An area of cloudiness and thunderstorms associated with a trough of
low pressure is located over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico. If
the disturbance remains over water, some gradual development is
possible while it meanders near the coasts of the eastern Florida
panhandle and the northern Florida peninsula during the next few
days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#124 Postby psyclone » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:30 am

:eek: The HPC QPF maps just stepped it up another notch..
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#125 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:56 am

An area of cloudiness and thunderstorms associated with a trough of
low pressure is located over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico. Some
gradual development is possible before the system moves inland over
the southeastern United States in a couple of days. Regardless of
development, heavy rainfall over northern Florida is anticipated.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#126 Postby N2FSU » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:50 am

psyclone wrote::eek: The HPC QPF maps just stepped it up another notch..


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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#127 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:54 am

I wouldn't doubt this forecast, the Euro probably paints even higher precip totals for the Nature coast by looking at its run from last night.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#128 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:04 am

Very noticeable vorticity over the Bay this morning.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#129 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:05 am

:uarrow: Could be a beginning.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#130 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:19 am

Looks like a broad weak low beginning to form off the coast of Dixie and Taylor counties in Fl based on Radar.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#131 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:25 am

:uarrow: That is the Vort we saw yesterday between PC and Tally, very slow drift ESE.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#132 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:39 am

A different look at it.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#133 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:06 am

You do a tour of the buoy sites right along the extreme NE gulf coast and 42036 and SGOF1 and you have a closed Low. North wind, West wind, East and South winds!

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/maps/Florida.shtml
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#134 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:08 am

Is it just me, or does it appear that the trough axis is drifting farther S-SE into the GOM the past 6-8 hours? Also, it seems that the vort in Apalachee Bay continues its slow southest drift as well late this morning.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#135 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:11 am

northjaxpro wrote:Is it just me, or does it appear that the trough axis is drifting farther S-SE into the GOM the past 6-8 hours? Also, it seems that the vort in Apalachee Bay continues its slow southest drift as well late this morning.


It is not you. CIMSS 850mb vort analysis confirms.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#136 Postby psyclone » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:12 am

Notice on those HPC maps that the axis of heavy rain moves westward with time...very little additional rain for cedar key after day 5 but Panama city goes way up from day 5 to day 7. I've always envisioned this as a heavy rain event with TC development a secondary possibility. ..but if you look at the extent of the heavy rain potential this could be a big deal even in the absence of a designated TC...reiterating a point often made...we need not have a number or a name for a memorable and potentially destructive event.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#137 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:12 am

No missions planned at this time.

WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1030 AM EDT SAT 06 AUGUST 2016
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 07/1100Z TO 08/1100Z AUGUST 2016
TCPOD NUMBER.....16-072

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#138 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:12 am

I think the high sitting to the north of the system is starting to influence movement and will probably keep what low there is offshore.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#139 Postby gulf701 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:29 am

If anyone would like to view local weather data related to this area, here is a link that you can access. This is a Davis system we maintain at our fire station. http://www.weatherlink.com/user/saintjoebeach/
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#140 Postby psyclone » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:44 am

Something else worth noting is the relative dearth of lightning strikes in the convective mass...a good indicator of a warm, tropical, high PWAT environment capable of extremely efficient rainfall production. I'm going to make a not-so-bold prediction of some flood watches coming out with this afternoon's forecast packages.
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