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#121 Postby Jevo » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:27 am

Brent wrote:NEXT!


now it makes sense.. I was wondering how somebody can have 22+ posts..... :roll:
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#122 Postby boca » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:43 am

I think 94L will become The Bahama Mama as it moves NE ward.
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#123 Postby Opal storm » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:52 am

This is just the beginning of a long and boring season guys. Shear is too high and SST's are well below normal...this season is a bust. We should've had at least 5 named storms by now, pathetic. So...who else thinks the Patriots offense will be the BEST in the league this year?



...and those of you with absolutely no sense of humor I'm just joking. :wink:
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#124 Postby jasons2k » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:53 am

This is from Jeff Lindner, a pro met here in Houston:

Tropics:

Broad area of low pressure over the W Caribbean Sea is mainly void of thunderstorms activity this morning and the recon. has been cancelled. Conditions will become more favorable for development as the system moves toward the NW into the Gulf of Mexico and upper level wind shear relaxes.
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#125 Postby Opal storm » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:55 am

jschlitz wrote:This is from Jeff Lindner, a pro met here in Houston:

Tropics:

Broad area of low pressure over the W Caribbean Sea is mainly void of thunderstorms activity this morning and the recon. has been cancelled. Conditions will become more favorable for development as the system moves toward the NW into the Gulf of Mexico and upper level wind shear relaxes.
Don't know how he thinks that, it's definitely moving off to the NE.
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#126 Postby caneman » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:56 am

jschlitz wrote:This is from Jeff Lindner, a pro met here in Houston:

Tropics:

Broad area of low pressure over the W Caribbean Sea is mainly void of thunderstorms activity this morning and the recon. has been cancelled. Conditions will become more favorable for development as the system moves toward the NW into the Gulf of Mexico and upper level wind shear relaxes.


Only one problem. There has to be something there for improved conditions to work on. :lol:
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#127 Postby Stratosphere747 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:58 am

I noticed that to but I'm fairly certain Jeff's comments were written much earlier this morning and based on the previous NHC discos. I'd assume he would have a different view right now.
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#128 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:03 pm

NHC discos? Oh, so that's what's inside that white ball - and I always thought it was a radar dish...

Couldn't resist...
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#129 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:04 pm

Opal storm wrote:
jschlitz wrote:This is from Jeff Lindner, a pro met here in Houston:

Tropics:

Broad area of low pressure over the W Caribbean Sea is mainly void of thunderstorms activity this morning and the recon. has been cancelled. Conditions will become more favorable for development as the system moves toward the NW into the Gulf of Mexico and upper level wind shear relaxes.
Don't know how he thinks that, it's definitely moving off to the NE.



I honestly don't understand why I'm still seeing posts like this after we've discussed this at length.

Currently there is a broad area of at least now "Somewhat" low pressure extended from the NW Caribbean and up near the Yucatan. An ULL had interaction with this area and brought about low pressures and heavy thunderstorm activity. However, this ULL has since then moved off to the NE and left the low pressure still in the NW Caribbean. However, with a stable environment and very little divergence happening no thunderstorms are flaring and the pressures will steadily rise, thus no development.


I mean...am I seeing this right or wrong? 94L practically hasn't moved in over a day has it, or am I just seeing this completely wrong?
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#130 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:05 pm

boca wrote:I think 94L will become The Bahama Mama as it moves NE ward.


thats the problem its not actually moving NE.. that is just the ULL.... the surface feature is what becomes the invest not anything else.
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#131 Postby flwxwatcher » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:05 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:Dr. Jeff Masters has a different tune than some on this board. He believes a tropical depression might form from this...possibly a tropical storm with 50mph winds this weekend.


Interesting... I am surprised he thinks this may form into anything.. I just hope we can start getting into the rainy season pattern here in Florida:):)
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#132 Postby miamicanes177 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:06 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:I noticed that to but I'm fairly certain Jeff's comments were written much earlier this morning and based on the previous NHC discos. I'd assume he would have a different view right now.
He edits his blogs a lot and changes words up. I think it would help his credibility more if he would make the edits below his original posts. He is always hammering on Dr. Gray and Klotchbach's forecast so I think he needs to have some accountability as well. Anyone can go back and edit their posts and be right 100% of the time. Just for the record he has edited his comment about this system this morning. He edit from being a "distinct possibility" of a tropical storm, to "20%".
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#133 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:11 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:
Opal storm wrote:
jschlitz wrote:This is from Jeff Lindner, a pro met here in Houston:

Tropics:

Broad area of low pressure over the W Caribbean Sea is mainly void of thunderstorms activity this morning and the recon. has been cancelled. Conditions will become more favorable for development as the system moves toward the NW into the Gulf of Mexico and upper level wind shear relaxes.
Don't know how he thinks that, it's definitely moving off to the NE.



I honestly don't understand why I'm still seeing posts like this after we've discussed this at length.

Currently there is a broad area of at least now "Somewhat" low pressure extended from the NW Caribbean and up near the Yucatan. An ULL had interaction with this area and brought about low pressures and heavy thunderstorm activity. However, this ULL has since then moved off to the NE and left the low pressure still in the NW Caribbean. However, with a stable environment and very little divergence happening no thunderstorms are flaring and the pressures will steadily rise, thus no development.


I mean...am I seeing this right or wrong? 94L practically hasn't moved in over a day has it, or am I just seeing this completely wrong?


yeah.. very little movement.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the ULL is Moving NE.. nothing else...... the borad surface feature... that i so terribly (i guess drew badbly).... on the previous page i have put up two images clearly showing where .. the broad area is... as well as the trough with other small vorts along it.. 94L is still in the same general area.......!!! i assure it is not moving NE ....
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#134 Postby cpdaman » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:11 pm

before this thread gets more confusing

the "jeff probably would have updated his view comment" caneman and stratoshper were talking about was jeff lindner NOT about jeff masters

they were talking about a Pro MET in the houston area

and then miamicanes 177 started thinking they were referring about JEff masters post earlier today of possible tC dev. again easy to get mixed up on that one
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#135 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:15 pm

cpdaman wrote:before this thread gets more confusing

the jeff probably would have updated his view comment was NOT about jeff masters

they were talking about a Pro MET in the houston area

and then someone started talking about JEff masters post again


thats fine .. but the biggest problem is.. is that nobody is reading previous post .. before they post something that has either been said ( 100 times ) or something that has already been discussed. now i guess since the rules say you can post anything you want... i guess that fine.. but it gums up the the entire thread.. becasue dont want to read... but oh well .. i guess it will never end .. most people dont change..

anyway .. yeah... its not moving NE .... the SURFACE REFLECTION OF 94L IS STILL IN THAT SAME AREA>>>>>> its part of a trough or wave that has been in the area for a while now.. you do not have mid and upper level invest......!!!! ok
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#136 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:17 pm

As far as the Jeff Master's comment goes, it doesn't mean too bad to me.


A "Distinct Possibility" and "20% chance" seems almost the same to me. Distinct Possibility really doesn't seem that much more intense, I think I can let this one go as just more creative editing so his logic was easier to understand.
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#137 Postby cpdaman » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:18 pm

ok so why isn't the T'storm activity south of cuba moving if it's not 94 L or the upper low which is moving more rapidly NE (what is responsible for this convection?)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-wv.html
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#138 Postby TheRingo » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:19 pm

shouldn't convection decrease during the day?
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#139 Postby hial2 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:20 pm

[quote="Opal storm"]. So...who else thinks the Patriots offense will be the BEST in the league this year?
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B4 I voice my opinion,I'm waiting for Berwick to chime in..he's on a roll.. :wink:
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#140 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:21 pm

cpdaman wrote:ok so why isn't the T'storm activity south of cuba moving

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-wv.html


it is ......!! your just not seeing what actually happening........... that is where the area of divergences is.. the T'storms continue to re fire in that area because of the ULL that is still moving NE ....
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