Hurricane Dean Recon Discussion

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[HURAKAN]

124 kts at flt

171330 1457N 06313W 6963 02889 9752 +089 +089 108116 124 098 036 03

Those are the gusts.

116 kts at flight level.

[CrazyC83]

I thought the 124 was correct? (That would be 112 kt at the surface - a high-end Cat 3)

The pressure hasn't caught up yet so I would hold it at 105 for now...my guess on pressure is 957mb at this point.

[Extremecane]

wow some impressive winds in there I think its a 120-125 mph storm

[Brent]

This should get an upgrade to a Cat 3.

[Derek Ortt]

the 124 was the valid reading as that is the 10 second wind

The 116 was a 30 second average

[senorpepr]

Okay... I've been "out of the loop" recon-wise for a little while now, thanks to my growing family. I've noticed this year that the AFRES is appending a remark at the end of RECCOs: SWS = ###KTS

For instance, the latest RECCO...

URNT11 KNHC 171750
97779 17464 60160 64500 30400 06059 08058 /3134
40739
RMK AF304 0404A DEAN OB 32
SWS = 039KTS
LAST REPORT

Now, I know the 4 group (40739) means ENE winds (070°) at 39KT. I see that the SWS is also 39KT. What exactly does SWS stand for? Does it mean surface wind speed? ...and if so, what is the purpose of that line with the 4 group says the same thing?

Thanks.

(Consider this research for a new, upcoming version of ReconExcel...)

[artist]

They were to have a new version this year but pojo said not all planes are equiped yet with it. Here is some more info on it senorpepr. And congrats on the growing family!

[miamicanes177]

how much time about until they reach Dean?

[cycloneye]

how much time about until they reach Dean?

Plane will be nearing eye,around 7:30 PM.

[pojo]

They were to have a new version this year but pojo said not all planes are equiped yet with it. Here is some more info on it senorpepr. And congrats on the growing family!

that is correct.. not all planes are equipped with the SFMR.

[pojo]

how much time about until they reach Dean?

Plane will be nearing eye,around 7:30 PM.

they should have 6+00 hours in investigating Dean... 00z fix and 06z fix.

[cycloneye]

123 kt wind.VDM will come soon.

[tolakram]

123 kt wind.VDM will come soon.

That would be 127mph given the .9 reduction to the surface?

[HURAKAN]

123 kt wind.VDM will come soon.

232900 1459N 06510W 6942 02844 9990 +079 +999 048126 130 093 063 01

[cycloneye]

pojo,at what altitud they are flying and what is the reduction.

[tropicsPR]

123 kt wind.VDM will come soon.

123 kt = 141.45 MPH

[mempho]

Cat 4 yet? Looks like at least a very strong 3 from what I can gather.

[pojo]

pojo,at what altitud they are flying and what is the reduction.

I haven't seen the flight plan... either FL050 or FL100. Since Dean is a cat3.... FL050 might be too low.

I have no idea about the reduction. I'm not in the plane to determine that.

[Thunder44]

130kts at max FL 10 second wind gust. They are flying around 700mb again, so a 90% Reduction to 117kts makes it Cat 4 with near 135mph winds. And this is just in NW Quad.