2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1441 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:55 pm

StPeteMike wrote:Seems like the Bahama system from the 12z GFS originates from the wave halfway between the Lesser Antilles and Africa. The 6z has the system but MUCH weaker. Next few runs will be interesting if the models pick up a significant system developing from this sleeper wave.

MUCH weaker is an understatement. It’s practically non existent on the most recent run.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1442 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:59 pm

There are three guarantees in this world: we will all die in the future, pigs cannot fly, and the GFS loves showing nothing during peak season in the Atlantic and likes to drop future monster storms just after two or even one run.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1443 Postby IcyTundra » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:07 pm

GFS is allergic to closing off lows it seems.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1444 Postby jconsor » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:08 pm

Most here are focused on the MDR east of Caribbean, but there is a building threat closer to home.

 https://twitter.com/yconsor/status/1436102398259482624


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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1445 Postby toad strangler » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:11 pm

otowntiger wrote:
StPeteMike wrote:Seems like the Bahama system from the 12z GFS originates from the wave halfway between the Lesser Antilles and Africa. The 6z has the system but MUCH weaker. Next few runs will be interesting if the models pick up a significant system developing from this sleeper wave.

MUCH weaker is an understatement. It’s practically non existent on the most recent run.


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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1446 Postby AlphaToOmega » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:38 pm

toad strangler wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
StPeteMike wrote:Seems like the Bahama system from the 12z GFS originates from the wave halfway between the Lesser Antilles and Africa. The 6z has the system but MUCH weaker. Next few runs will be interesting if the models pick up a significant system developing from this sleeper wave.

MUCH weaker is an understatement. It’s practically non existent on the most recent run.


Love when you show up. PARTY OVER! :lol:


I love taking singular 300-hour model runs as gospel
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1447 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:57 pm

AlphaToOmega wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
otowntiger wrote:MUCH weaker is an understatement. It’s practically non existent on the most recent run.


Love when you show up. PARTY OVER! :lol:


I love taking singular 300-hour model runs as gospel


Again, this is the GFS we talk about, A model that for whatever strange reason, refuses to show any noticeable closed level lows anytime soon during peak season. If that's not suspicious, then I don't know what is.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1448 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:01 pm

AlphaToOmega wrote:
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otowntiger wrote:MUCH weaker is an understatement. It’s practically non existent on the most recent run.


Love when you show up. PARTY OVER! :lol:


I love taking singular 300-hour model runs as gospel

Are you referring to me?? All I did was comment on a run. In what way does that translate into me taking it as gospel? If I had said something definitive in response, such as: “because of that run means we have nothing to worry about” or because if that run we better all run for the hills” then you might have a point.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1449 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:09 pm

18z GEFS:
Not much until day 6,
After that, some stronger members head from Yuc channel towards N Gulf...

Also 1 interesting member in W ATL dives SW down towards Turks / Caicos then NW, then N... This will eventually end up near OBX.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1450 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:05 am

00z Euro ensemble seems to indicate that the 2nd wave coming off of Africa might be a nasty non-recurving one.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1451 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:16 am

kevin wrote:00z Euro ensemble seems to indicate that the 2nd wave coming off of Africa might be a nasty non-recurving one.

https://i.imgur.com/IgeyHAU.png


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Euro showing some action...
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1452 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:29 am

Blown Away wrote:
kevin wrote:00z Euro ensemble seems to indicate that the 2nd wave coming off of Africa might be a nasty non-recurving one.

https://i.imgur.com/IgeyHAU.png


https://i.imgur.com/tOwQVU8.gif

Euro showing some action...


Ooh, yeah not liking that westward tracking MDR system one bit. With the time of year in mind, it somewhat reminds me of Georges.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1453 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:36 am

Eps getting quite bullish bringing something potentially strong near Puerto Rico and Bahamas. Still a bit out but certainly worth monitoring.

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Re: RE: Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1454 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:53 am

Blown Away wrote:
kevin wrote:00z Euro ensemble seems to indicate that the 2nd wave coming off of Africa might be a nasty non-recurving one.

https://i.imgur.com/IgeyHAU.png


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Euro showing some action...
Ridging in place, watch out, this is big trouble
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Re: RE: Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1455 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:00 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
kevin wrote:00z Euro ensemble seems to indicate that the 2nd wave coming off of Africa might be a nasty non-recurving one.

https://i.imgur.com/IgeyHAU.png


https://i.imgur.com/tOwQVU8.gif

Euro showing some action...
Ridging in place, watch out, this is big trouble


Looks like that trouble-maker would receive the name Peter if that models are to be believed. And I personally know a person named Peter who is also a sarcastic trouble-maker.
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Re: RE: Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1456 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:44 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
kevin wrote:00z Euro ensemble seems to indicate that the 2nd wave coming off of Africa might be a nasty non-recurving one.

https://i.imgur.com/IgeyHAU.png


https://i.imgur.com/tOwQVU8.gif

Euro showing some action...
Ridging in place, watch out, this is big trouble


Yep, watching how this evolves quite closely.
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Re: RE: Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1457 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:54 am

SFLcane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/tOwQVU8.gif

Euro showing some action...
Ridging in place, watch out, this is big trouble


Yep, watching how this evolves quite closely.

It seems like at the end of the run, the stronger members start lifting this out.
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Re: RE: Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1458 Postby toad strangler » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:12 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Ridging in place, watch out, this is big trouble


Yep, watching how this evolves quite closely.

It seems like at the end of the run, the stronger members start lifting this out.


That would be just about expected as climo goes. But this is just in signal stage right now. Those details (specifically 500mb) are impossible to know .
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1459 Postby Spacecoast » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:19 am

0z NASA / GMAO....
AEW wave goes NW
some kind of activity into Ga. /SC @ 240Hr?

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Re: RE: Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1460 Postby otowntiger » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:22 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Ridging in place, watch out, this is big trouble


Yep, watching how this evolves quite closely.

It seems like at the end of the run, the stronger members start lifting this out.
Which according to the old adage would make sense, i.e.: 'Stronger=more north; weaker= more west. Of course it will depend solely upon the synoptic pattern in place at the time and specific to the system where it is at that time. But its a decent rule of thumb on average when talking about storms in that general vicinity.
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