Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
somethingfunny
ChatStaff
ChatStaff
Posts: 3926
Age: 37
Joined: Thu May 31, 2007 10:30 pm
Location: McKinney, Texas

#161 Postby somethingfunny » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:41 am

This season is incredible. I'm reviving this thread!
0 likes   

User avatar
mpic
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 622
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:24 am
Location: Splendora, TX

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#162 Postby mpic » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:46 pm

I, for one. am glad it has been uneventful for the GOM this year...my hurricane evacuation funds are stripped dry after what Ike cost me.
0 likes   

Frank2
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4061
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:47 pm

#163 Postby Frank2 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:17 pm

I agree - here in Florida the foreclosure crisis is very bad, and with even a Wilma-type hurricane landfall, the many empty houses, condominium apartments or commercial buildings would not be repaired any time soon...

So, it might be frustrating to many here, but the truth is that the quiet has been a blessing to everyone who's suffered over most of the past 5 seasons, here and in other countries...
0 likes   

StormClouds63
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 583
Age: 62
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 11:56 am
Location: Southwest Louisiana

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#164 Postby StormClouds63 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:37 pm

I don't miss the evacuations to Arkansas, even though it's a great state w/friendly people. Hope the fronts keep pushing through and the westerlies stay strong for another 4-5 weeks. Please, no bold season-over guarantees yet. Don't jinx a good thing.
0 likes   

User avatar
ConvergenceZone
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5194
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:40 am
Location: Northern California

#165 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:00 pm

I know it can be really frustrating as an avid hurricane nut like myself, but I sometimes have to step back and not be so selfish, and realize to learn to enjoy the calm before the storm. Meaning that I'm sure there are extremely active years that lie ahead of us....

We should learn to enjoy it while it lasts. Next year we might be talking about how incredibly active it is, and next year will come quickly....
0 likes   

Sanibel
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10375
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Offshore SW Florida

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#166 Postby Sanibel » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:51 pm

Anyone know when the next MJO will come?
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#167 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:15 am

cannot believe this thread is still around.. seriously its funny.. anyway..

its is so not flat lined.. its about to explode over the next couple days..
0 likes   

Rainband

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#168 Postby Rainband » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:26 am

I hope it stays dead. Life is bad enough for some people this year....without a natural disaster :D
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23691
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Re:

#169 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:06 am

Aric Dunn wrote:cannot believe this thread is still around.. seriously its funny.. anyway..

its is so not flat lined.. its about to explode over the next couple days..


Aric you want to bet it won't explode? :D

Looking at the models and the various outlooks (see Wxman's thread), it wouldn't surprise me if it is quiet for the next 10 days or so at least anywhere close to where you live (assuming it is the CONUS)

Beyond that models are hinting at a pretty nice Cape Verde system that rolls off Africa SW of the Cape Verde islands in the 10-14 day timeframe which looks to head more west than some of the current Cape Verde systems. It's so far out I would bet it likely wouldn't happen.
Last edited by gatorcane on Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
DanKellFla
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1291
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:02 pm
Location: Lake Worth, Florida

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#170 Postby DanKellFla » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:24 am

Aric you want to be it won't explode?


Uhhhh, what are you trying to say?
0 likes   

Sanibel
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10375
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Offshore SW Florida

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#171 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:39 am

Anyone have an MJO map? I can't find any MJO link on Google.
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23691
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#172 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:05 am

DanKellFla wrote:
Aric you want to be it won't explode?


Uhhhh, what are you trying to say?


bet=>bet, corrected.
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23691
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

#173 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:02 pm

One word TROUGH. It has simply dominated the Eastern part of North America this summer. Check out the NWS Miami snippet......which now brings in the word "FALL" with such a amplified pattern across Northern America by next weekend.

Maybe an early end to the hurricane season for the CONUS this year?

MOST OF THE MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT A WEAK EASTERLY
FLOW WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA FROM TUESDAY INTO
WEDNESDAY...AS THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE WILL BE THE DOMINANT FEATURE.
THIS SHOULD RESULT IN PRIMARILY DIURNALLY-DRIVEN SEA BREEZE
CONVECTION...WITH ACTIVITY BECOMING CONCENTRATED OVER THE WESTERN
HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. HOWEVER...BY THE END OF THE FORECAST
PERIOD...BOTH THE ECMWF AND GFS AGREE THAT A SUBSTANTIALLY MORE
PROGRESSIVE AND AMPLIFIED NORTHERN STREAM WILL DEVELOP ACROSS
NORTH AMERICA...WHICH MAY BE THE FIRST INDICATIONS THAT THE FALL
SEASON IS CERTAINLY NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
HOWEVER...FOR SOUTH
FLORIDA...THE DEVELOPMENT OF A BROAD LONG WAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE
EASTERN CONUS WILL MEAN A RETURN TO SOUTHWEST FLOW BEGINNING AT
THE END OF THE WEEK...WITH WARMEST AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES AND
HIGHEST STORM CHANCES ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST. THIS IS ALREADY
INDICATED...AND WILL MAKE NO CHANGES TO THE EXTENDED FORECAST AT
THIS TIME

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
0 likes   

User avatar
BigA
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 1317
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:56 pm

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#174 Postby BigA » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:13 pm

Of course, the east coast trough can also be the line that drags hooked October hurricanes into South Florida.

I think both Aric and Gatorcane have solid points. If the models are any indication, there is a good chance for a significant storm to develop in the east Atlantic during the next week, but it will be unlikely to impact land.

As for the east coast, something may happen there too...the models seem to be sniffing at something.
0 likes   

Sanibel
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10375
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Offshore SW Florida

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#175 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:09 am

An early cold front doesn't necessarily mean the end of the season. An early front can be followed by a favorable October where conditions rebound in the opposite direction and a Caribbean system forms from the lingering tropical conditions down there at season's end.


However this season has such extensive negative conditions and shear that my personal instinct would be against it. But you have to allow all possibilities in the tropics.
0 likes   

User avatar
Jinkers
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 471
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:34 pm
Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida
Contact:

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#176 Postby Jinkers » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:46 pm

I know anything can happen, but I for one am glad it's been so quiet, and the big hurricanes have been fish storms, lets hope it stays that way.
0 likes   

jinftl
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4312
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:47 pm
Location: fort lauderdale, fl

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#177 Postby jinftl » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:06 pm

Quiet in terms of landfalls....but the last few runs of the models suggest several systems developing off of africa in the next week or so......and hint at possible systems closer to home (although there is low consistency between runs and models on that)

Image


5 named storms....quite possibly on the verge of the 6th with 96L.....a few days before the climatologic midpoint and peak of the season...still on track for a double digit # of storms this season. Quiet compared to prior years in terms of landfalls and even #, to that I have one thing to say....el nino forecast by most sources to be gone by next summer.

Given the average of 10.1 storms per season from 1944-2002, climatology would suggest we should have had....drum roll please...between 5 and 6 named storms by this point of the season. We have had 5, and 6 is most likely in the making.

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145531
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#178 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:24 am

Nobody,even the pro mets expected Fred to be a major cane at the time it was named so as we know,the tropics bring many surprises.The season is at 6/2/2,not bad considering the negative conditions that has prevailed.Yes,not healthy systems like Ana,Claudette,Danny and Erika,but they count in the overall numbers for the season.

The numbers may rise or not after the season is over as invest 90L (Late May) is analized at post season analysis to see if it was a storm before it made landfall.
0 likes   

HURRICANELONNY
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1383
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 6:48 am
Location: HOLLYWOOD.FL

Re: Tropics Offically Flat lined !! (dead)

#179 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:24 pm

I can't believe I'm posting on this subject. But here we are at the peak of the season. I was looking at the water vapor loop. Seeing so much shear this year. You would think were in a strong El Nino. I'm glad it's mostly a dead year so far.
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html :roll:
0 likes   

User avatar
Cyclenall
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6666
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:01 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

#180 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:30 pm

With the Atlantic numbers at 6/2/2, that means 1/3 (33.3~%) of all tropical storms became a major hurricane and 100% of the hurricanes that formed became a major hurricane.
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: TheBurn and 28 guests