2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#161 Postby floridasun78 » Mon May 23, 2016 1:07 pm

look florida or southern fl coulde be dry area of low by Bahama For Wednesday through the upcoming weekend, models show the main
upper level trough migrating east and further away from the state
by mid week, with an associated cutoff low developing near the
Bahamas in the Thursday-Friday time frame. Meanwhile, sfc high
pressure seems to spread across the Western Atlantic and bring
back increasingly easterly flow for the second half of the work
week. Most of South Florida will be on the subsidence side of the
aforementioned cut-off low, which normally translates into a drier
pattern establishing across the area. But the stronger easterly
flow should advect enough low level moisture to support afternoon
showers and a few thunderstorms, mainly during the weekend.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#162 Postby tropicwatch » Mon May 23, 2016 1:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:No new thread for this potential area will not be posted at this time so let's keep the discussions about this area in this thread for now. From our announcement thread about this:

...in the medium/extended range is not allowed, unless:

1) There is an actual incipient area of disturbed weather already in place, or
2) It is being mentioned in the NHC Tropical Weather Outlook


Cyclone, I couldn't find it in the TWO.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#163 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon May 23, 2016 1:47 pm

Looks like the Euro is more interested in a potential area of low pressure moving NE out of the Western Caribbean in the medium to long range. Hmmm...

It now also shows the first low just off the SE Coast but very weak.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#164 Postby gatorcane » Mon May 23, 2016 2:15 pm

Euro shows two lows now, the second of which originates from the Caribbean. Both bring a good amount of rain to Florida. The GFS shows one low and further east with no rain for Florida.

Good test of the new model upgrades as the ECMWF and GFS have differing solutions.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#165 Postby WPBWeather » Mon May 23, 2016 2:36 pm

gatorcane wrote:Euro shows two lows now, the second of which originates from the Caribbean. Both bring a good amount of rain to Florida. The GFS shows one low and further east with no rain for Florida.

Good test of the new model upgrades as the ECMWF and GFS have differing solutions.



Its nice to be starting off the season with so much model clarity! :(
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#166 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon May 23, 2016 2:59 pm

hey I am just happy the season is here!!!!!!!!! gives us something to do and model watch!!!!!
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#167 Postby gatorcane » Mon May 23, 2016 3:01 pm

The CMC also brings something out of the Caribbean to the NE with development in the long range but much further east than the ECMWF:

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#168 Postby OuterBanker » Mon May 23, 2016 3:26 pm

gatorcane wrote:The CMC also brings something out of the Caribbean to the NE with development in the long range but much further east than the ECMWF:

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Gator. That graphic is the last in the long range GEM (oh, how I've missed the crazy cousin). The first low which makes landfall south of Charleston at 0z on the the 30th and exits at the DelMarVa 18z 31 is not shown. Of course the GEM has the first low stronger than the Euro. GEM/Canadian is always entertaining.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#169 Postby cycloneye » Mon May 23, 2016 3:38 pm

cycloneye wrote:No new thread for this potential area will be posted at this time so let's keep the discussions about this area in this thread for now. From our announcement thread about this:

...in the medium/extended range is not allowed, unless:

1) There is an actual incipient area of disturbed weather already in place, or
2) It is being mentioned in the NHC Tropical Weather Outlook


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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#170 Postby OuterBanker » Mon May 23, 2016 3:48 pm

Interesting thought. Will this thread lead to the first Active Storms/Invests or not of the season (Alex excluded). Make your bets. :D
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#171 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon May 23, 2016 5:07 pm

18z GFS coming in even weaker with the low off the SE U.S. Coast. I'd say development chances are decreasing.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#172 Postby AJC3 » Mon May 23, 2016 5:34 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:18z GFS coming in even weaker with the low off the SE U.S. Coast. I'd say development chances are decreasing.



TC development chances were never really all that high to begin with.

On the other hand, chances remain quite high for BI/BE lowering of pressures E or NE of the Bahamas in 3-4 days.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#173 Postby NDG » Mon May 23, 2016 6:31 pm

Development or no development one thing for sure is that a very wet period is in tap for much of the Caribbean towards most of the FL Peninsula up to the Carolinas during the next 5-10 days.

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#174 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon May 23, 2016 7:42 pm

NDG wrote:Development or no development one thing for sure is that a very wet period is in tap for much of the Caribbean towards most of the FL Peninsula up to the Carolinas during the next 5-10 days.

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A lot of rain for sure. Wonder if that large batch off the Carolina coast ends up right along the coast instead.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#175 Postby NDG » Tue May 24, 2016 5:40 am

Either the models are having a tough time with the interaction of the UL trough with tropical moisture or the models, including the ECMWF, are really bad in their 7-10 day range, lol.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#176 Postby stormwise » Tue May 24, 2016 5:54 am

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Actually there is a good signal for the SE-US coast storm , also note a signal in the epac/cpac.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#177 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue May 24, 2016 7:44 am

they are usually bad in that range anyways
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#178 Postby AJC3 » Tue May 24, 2016 11:30 am

There's a pretty good area of convection now extending north from eastern Cuba, the Mona Passage and the SE Bahamas. This area probably qualifies for its own thread now.

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#179 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue May 24, 2016 11:37 am

:uarrow: But model support is decreasing and development seems unlikely?
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion

#180 Postby gatorcane » Tue May 24, 2016 11:40 am

AJC3, agree area warrants a new thread so started one.
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