2017 ACE: NATL - 226.0 | EPAC - 98.2 | WPAC - 154.5 | NIO - 16.1

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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#161 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:59 pm

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
Irma (11L) 26.8825 160
Jose (12L) 0.2825 40
Thirteen (13L) 0 30

Season Total 53.38
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#162 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:10 pm

At such high intensities, Irma is probably going to drive the season's PDI total to an even larger number than the ACE total, which is a rare occurrence.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#163 Postby Meteorcane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:00 pm

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Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
Irma (11L) 26.8825 160
Jose (12L) 0.2825 40
Thirteen (13L) 0 30

Season Total 53.38


Irma has now contributed more than half of the season's Atlantic ACE!
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#164 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:07 pm

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
PTC Ten (10L) 0 0
Irma (11L) 29.4425 160
Jose (12L) 0.485 45
Thirteen (13L) 0 30

Season Total 56.1425


Atlantic could be above the climatological average (about 104) by next week.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#165 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:11 pm

Irma dumped 9.345 units in the past 24 hours alone.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#166 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:15 pm

This has a shot at Ivan's record.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#167 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:24 pm

1900hurricane wrote:At such high intensities, Irma is probably going to drive the season's PDI total to an even larger number than the ACE total, which is a rare occurrence.


What does the PDI refer to exactly?
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#168 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:45 pm

After a Klotzbach post, I looked into the best track of Allen.

For most ACE in a 24 hour period, Allen produced 9.63 ACE. If Irma remains at 160 kt for the 6z update, it will be the first hurricane to produce at least 10 ACE in 24 hours.

(Obviously subject to change after reanalysis)
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#169 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:24 pm

Hammy wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:At such high intensities, Irma is probably going to drive the season's PDI total to an even larger number than the ACE total, which is a rare occurrence.


What does the PDI refer to exactly?

PDI is Power Dissipation Index. It's similar to ACE, but rather than squaring the wind values and dividing the sum by 10**4, PDI cubes the wind values and divides the the sum by 10**6. While ACE is more commonly used, some people prefer PDI since the force of the wind increases cubicly. I like to keep track of both and compare them. Because PDI is a cubic function of wind speed vs a quadratic function for ACE, it drops off more quickly and gives lower values than ACE below 100 kt. Above 100 kt, PDI ramps up more quickly and gives higher values of ACE. High ratios of PDI when compared to ACE is indicative of notable major hurricane activity.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#170 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:40 am

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
Irma (11L) 32.0025 160
Jose (12L) 0.6875 45
Katia (13L) 0.1225 35

Season Total 59.0275
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#171 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:43 am

RL3AO wrote:
Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
Irma (11L) 32.0025 160
Jose (12L) 0.6875 45
Katia (13L) 0.1225 35

Season Total 59.0275


Catching up to the EPAC and WPAC pretty fast.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#172 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:46 am

With the models keeping Jose around as a borderline major for two weeks, it's not crazy to think the Atlantic ACE could be above 120 in two weeks.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#173 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:25 am

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
PTC Ten (10L) 0 0
Irma (11L) 34.5625 160
Jose (12L) 0.99 55
Katia (13L) 0.2825 40

Season Total 62.05


The ACE of Irma will surpass the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season this afternoon.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#174 Postby Ntxw » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:42 am

The Atlantic also will finally make a run to compete with the Pacific basins, perhaps surpass them for a time even.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#175 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:22 pm

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
Irma (11L) 37.1225 160
Jose (12L) 1.4125 65
Katia (13L) 0.705 65

Season Total 65.455
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#176 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:28 pm

As if Irma wasn't enough, Jose and Katia are now also strengthening hurricanes. The NAtl is pumping out ACE at a meteoric rate right now.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#177 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:44 pm

Random coding this afternoon. Here are the top 20 ACE producing six hour periods on record in the Atlantic since 1950.

12Z 11 Sep 1961 - Total ACE: 3.865
06Z 11 Sep 1961 - Total ACE: 3.7
18Z 11 Sep 1961 - Total ACE: 3.3875
00Z 11 Sep 1961 - Total ACE: 3.3225
06Z 15 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 3.075
12Z 15 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 3.065
18Z 10 Sep 1961 - Total ACE: 2.975
18Z 15 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 2.8475
12Z 10 Sep 1961 - Total ACE: 2.8125
00Z 15 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 2.7925
00Z 18 Aug 1969 - Total ACE: 2.77
12Z 17 Aug 1969 - Total ACE: 2.77
06Z 16 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 2.765
00Z 17 Aug 1969 - Total ACE: 2.74
18Z 07 Aug 1980 - Total ACE: 2.7225
00Z 16 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 2.7025
12Z 17 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 2.7
00Z 08 Sep 1951 - Total ACE: 2.69
18Z 31 Aug 1979 - Total ACE: 2.675
06Z 17 Sep 2010 - Total ACE: 2.675


18z made it to #3.

9/6/17 18z - 3.405
9/6/17 12z - 3.0225
9/6/17 6z - 2.885
9/6/17 0z - 2.7525
9/5/17 18z - 2.72
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 53.1 - EPAC - 85.8 - WPAC -86.5 - NIO - 3.5

#178 Postby Alyono » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:49 pm

Atlantic should blow by the WPAC this week with the 3 storms ongoing
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#179 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:57 pm

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#180 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:00 pm

RL3AO wrote:Image


So if Irma stays at 160, we need Katia and Jose at 80 and 85 knots to get to #1.
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