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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#161 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:12 pm

Of course it also wouldn't be the first time the models show a TS at 30W heading out to sea and then six days later a solid wave is approaching the islands.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#162 Postby plasticup » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:20 pm

Looks like 06z GFS blew this up, but 12z and 18z don't make much of it. I don't see much support from the other models either - am I wrong?
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#163 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:34 pm

What is that convection between 35 and 40 degrees, I dont see a wave on the TWD.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#164 Postby storminabox » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:08 pm

The Atlantic is puzzling me a bit currently
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#165 Postby catskillfire51 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:21 am

The GFS Para on September 12th... hopefully that doesn't come fruition!
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#166 Postby sma10 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:26 am

catskillfire51 wrote:The GFS Para on September 12th... hopefully that doesn't come fruition!


Hopefully not! But it takes the oddest track I've ever seen in the Gulf. Approaches New Orleans, stalls just offshore for a day, then tracks due West to Southwest, perfectly tracing the shape of the coastline
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#167 Postby catskillfire51 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:03 am

sma10 wrote:
catskillfire51 wrote:The GFS Para on September 12th... hopefully that doesn't come fruition!


Hopefully not! But it takes the oddest track I've ever seen in the Gulf. Approaches New Orleans, stalls just offshore for a day, then tracks due West to Southwest, perfectly tracing the shape of the coastline


Watching the afternoon news today, they were explaining that the cold front was coming through this week and then was going to be pushed out by a strong high pressure ridge coming in from the west and going from south Texas to Tennessee with a positive tilt. Seeing that and this it could make sense.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#168 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:22 am

I figured out what the GFS is developing in the Bahamas and sending into Long Island, it’s this wave, while the euro does almost nothing with it.

What we thought the last few days developing strong is actually the wave currently over West Africa right behind it
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#169 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:41 am

12Z GFS animation from 78 to 168 hours. Looks like the setup for genesis is a little complicated:

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#170 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:06 pm

12Z CMC animation. The model looks quite bullish, weak steering flow as well:

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#171 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:02 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z CMC animation. The model looks quite bullish, weak steering flow as well:

https://i.postimg.cc/63TvC8ZJ/gem-z850-vort-atl-fh72-240.gif


How do you get these really large model run images?
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#172 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:19 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:That’s a weird discussion above. The top part of the wave will be moving rapidly, and the bottom half will be stationary? lol


I think the bottom half is glued to the ITCZ you can see it some model runs. It just can’t move
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#173 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:44 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:That’s a weird discussion above. The top part of the wave will be moving rapidly, and the bottom half will be stationary? lol


I think the bottom half is glued to the ITCZ you can see it some model runs. It just can’t move



Yes, I remember the TWOs mentioning that earlier. So how is this going to get unstuck?
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#174 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:23 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:That’s a weird discussion above. The top part of the wave will be moving rapidly, and the bottom half will be stationary? lol


I think the bottom half is glued to the ITCZ you can see it some model runs. It just can’t move



Yes, I remember the TWOs mentioning that earlier. So how is this going to get unstuck?


I guess the northern half of the wave axis will beak away.


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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#175 Postby curtadams » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:50 pm

gatorcane wrote:120 to 240 hours ECMWF and GFS animations:

ECMWF:
https://i.postimg.cc/jSKJBKdw/ecmwf-uv850-vort-atl-fh120-240.gif

Speaking of the globals being out to sea, as it were, the ECMWF having a tropical storm move off the coast of Mauritania like that is crazy. I don't think anything like that has happened so far north.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#176 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:50 pm

:uarrow: But what about the southern half? Is that the part we're going to have to watch? Sorry, I guess this wave is confusing me. :wink:
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#177 Postby Visioen » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:59 pm

SoupBone wrote:
gatorcane wrote:12Z CMC animation. The model looks quite bullish, weak steering flow as well:

https://i.postimg.cc/63TvC8ZJ/gem-z850-vort-atl-fh72-240.gif


How do you get these really large model run images?

Regions -> North Atlantic
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#178 Postby Hurrilurker » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:12 pm

Maybe this is just a Gulf storm year...waves just need to traverse the Atlantic and survive weakly, stay south, then blow up south of Cuba.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#179 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:23 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:Maybe this is just a Gulf storm year...waves just need to traverse the Atlantic and survive weakly, stay south, then blow up south of Cuba.



These two waves certainly do seem to be in a holding pattern right now. The TWOs almost seem to be copied and pasted.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#180 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:40 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
Hurrilurker wrote:Maybe this is just a Gulf storm year...waves just need to traverse the Atlantic and survive weakly, stay south, then blow up south of Cuba.



These two waves certainly do seem to be in a holding pattern right now. The TWOs almost seem to be copied and pasted.



Looks like it breaks free around 9/5 or 9/6 on gfs. It’s crazy because it just swirls in a loop for a few days before breaking loose. But the tail end of it stays semi attached to the ITCZ for like a week plus until it gets to the islands.


Here’s where it starts it’s escape


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Still not 100% free

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