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#161 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:35 am

Despite the curved banding, shear will destroy
95L...NHC continued to emphasize in their discussions that
shear would destroy this thing.
Upper level winds are simply not favorable.

Say Bye Bye to 95L.
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#162 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:35 am

Aric Dunn wrote:you obviously dont know what curved banding features look like.. although not wraping all the way around they are there and are much more defined then they were yesterday


With all due respect, and no big deal.. I'm sure he knows what Curved Banding Features are. He is right, there is basically only a broad circulation and as far as I knew... in order to be classified as curved band pattern, it needs to have some type of convection. Unfortunately it's not sitting over water and may only form in a few days as it moves off the NE very slowly...

This swirl is just that right now... nothing more than a low level swirl.

No big deal...

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Re: 95L Invest near Florida,Sat Pics,Models and Analysis

#163 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:36 am

wzrgirl1 wrote:I believe it is centered over land right now........not good for formation

yep over land..

but has been slowly creeping eastward.
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Re: 95L Invest near Florida,Sat Pics,Models and Analysis

#164 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:36 am

This thing will not survive. Shear will kill it.

That is why the NHC said upper level winds are
NOT favorable.
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Re: 95L Invest near Florida,Sat Pics,Models and Analysis

#165 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:37 am

what's amazing to me is that there were some areas that received as much as 4 inches of rain in the same city as me and I didn't get one drop.......crazy i tell ya just crazy
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#166 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:39 am

SouthFloridawx wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:you obviously dont know what curved banding features look like.. although not wraping all the way around they are there and are much more defined then they were yesterday


With all due respect, and no big deal.. I'm sure he knows what Curved Banding Features are. He is right, there is basically only a broad circulation and as far as I knew... in order to be classified as curved band pattern, it needs to have some type of convection. Unfortunately it's not sitting over water and may only form in a few days as it moves off the NE very slowly...

This swirl is just that right now... nothing more than a low level swirl.

No big deal...

that is the whole point... you nailed it.. we need to watch because as it moves off shore.. it would have a better chance..

and as for the curved banding.. yeah it normally needs to be warping around a certain percentage of the center and i think i mentioned a few post back.. I said what i said because the bands of level clouds which do have rain associated with .. are clearly curved and are rotating around the broad center..
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Re: 95L Invest near Florida,Sat Pics,Models and Analysis

#167 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:42 am

So we're agreed then...

No Big Deal.

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#168 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:42 am

No big deal cause 95L is dead folks...DEAD :lol:
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Re: 95L Invest near Florida,Sat Pics,Models and Analysis

#169 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:43 am

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:This thing will not survive. Shear will kill it.

That is why the NHC said upper level winds are
NOT favorable.


here is something funny .. to remember.. now given ever system is different.. the nhc over and over said the shear was to strong for barry... ever outlook they said it.. but what happened..

SHEAR IS NOT THE ONLY KILLER

the fact is, is this system has persisted in the shear environment for days now.. as long as the surface feature which classifies any tropical system is still there .. then it always has a chance.. because shear and other factors change.
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#170 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:43 am

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:No big deal cause 95L is dead folks...DEAD :lol:


good then dont watch it anymore...
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#171 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:44 am

but yeah no big deal
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#172 Postby WindRunner » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:45 am

Actually, it's only been a "system" for about 42 hours now . . . not exactly persistence . . .
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#173 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:45 am

Wow, we must be bored. We've been talking about this since June 23.
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#174 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:46 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:No big deal cause 95L is dead folks...DEAD :lol:


good then dont watch it anymore...


I'm just saying what the NHC said...that shear yields no chance for
development....
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Re: 95L Invest near Florida,Sat Pics,Models and Analysis

#175 Postby windstorm99 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:47 am

This area is likely to be absorbed by the next trof of low pressure.
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#176 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:47 am

WindRunner wrote:Actually, it's only been a "system" for about 42 hours now . . . not exactly persistence . . .


maybe an invest..
but it has been fighting the shear for much longer than that.. as a tropical wave and even when it started "organizing" enough to be a invest still shear..
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#177 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:48 am

windstorm99 wrote:This area is likely to be absorbed by the next trof of low pressure.

yep in about 3 to 4 days..that is a long time
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#178 Postby WindRunner » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:49 am

Aric Dunn wrote:you obviously dont know what curved banding features look like.. although not wraping all the way around they are there and are much more defined then they were yesterday


The only way you can qualify the line of thunderstorms as curved banding features is if you want to argue subtropically. As for now, the "banding" features are not within 100 miles of the center of circulation (which, for now, is inland NW of Lake Okeechobee) and therefore are not even connected to the center, much less wrapped around.
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#179 Postby WindRunner » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:51 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
WindRunner wrote:Actually, it's only been a "system" for about 42 hours now . . . not exactly persistence . . .


maybe an invest..
but it has been fighting the shear for much longer than that.. as a tropical wave and even when it started "organizing" enough to be a invest still shear..


Invest status is just up to 24 hours now. 12z yesterday was the official declaration of invest. Low pressure has only been there for 42 hours, since about 21z the day before. Unorganzied convection has been there about two and a half days.

So yes, it's been fighting the shear. Only problem is that it's losing . . . badly.


And FYI, the shortwave should pick it up in about 48-60 hours . . .


EDIT: to correct invest time.
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#180 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:52 am

Cyclone1 wrote:Wow, we must be bored. We've been talking about this since June 23.


yep and jumping at the slim chance that just maybe.....maybe something will form.........even though we know that most likely nothing will get going for a couple more weeks at least
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