2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1641 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:26 pm

SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO


No, El Nino doesn't cause troughs. 2010 was a huge La Nina and had those troughs.

60's into northern FL. on the latest GFS. :ggreen:

I’ll believe it when I see it! Besides it’s August 28th not September 28th. The GFS has a long history of over amplifying troughs.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1642 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:38 pm

Just remember, troughs like this are a double edged sword, just as capable of resulting in steering like an Ivan or Charley situation as an Earl or an Igor. If a troughing pattern sets up, everything in the Caribbean will need to be watched closely through October.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1643 Postby Spacecoast » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:54 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I’ll believe it when I see it! Besides it’s August 28th not September 28th. The GFS has a long history of over amplifying troughs.


It did happen 3 years ago.

Sept 10-12, 2017 Panama City / Tallahassee

4:00PM: 68 degrees...
Overnight low: 62 degrees
Stayed in the 60's for ~40 hours until Sept 12th, 2017 9:00AM
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1644 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:58 pm

Spacecoast wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:I’ll believe it when I see it! Besides it’s August 28th not September 28th. The GFS has a long history of over amplifying troughs.


It did happen 3 years ago.

Sept 10-12, 2017 Panama City / Tallahassee

4:00PM: 68 degrees...
Overnight low: 62 degrees
Stayed in the 60's for ~40 hours until Sept 12th, 2017 9:00AM

The same time Hurricane Irma hit South Florida. :eek:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1645 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:50 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Just remember, troughs like this are a double edged sword, just as capable of resulting in steering like an Ivan or Charley situation as an Earl or an Igor. If a troughing pattern sets up, everything in the Caribbean will need to be watched closely through October.


For sure. When they come down, you can often expect to also see heat from the tropics coming up. We witnessed it twice this week. Early fronts and troughs don't usually end the season. That was an old wive's tale people used to believe. Probably some still do.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1646 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:41 pm

Atlantic ridge is gone...

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1647 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:44 pm

The 18z GFS was quite strange! With everything coming off Africa heading directly NW into the East-Central Atlantic. Outside of the super long-range major it had forming and meandering off the East Coast of the U.S. nothing else of significance develops through the next 16 days.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1648 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:45 pm


Not really unless your talking the Bermuda High then yes. But this is 10 days out and will change.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1649 Postby jaxfladude » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:01 pm

Good news? And is it for real and also a more permanent feature?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1650 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:24 pm

jaxfladude wrote:Good news? And is it for real and also a more permanent feature?

Nothing’s permanent. Unless you ask our old friend Ninel Conde who used to believe in nothing but an East Coast trough. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1651 Postby emeraldislenc » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:37 pm

It is almost like people are hinting the season is over. I still believe we will have some major hurricanes to deal with in the next 6 to 8 weeks.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1652 Postby chaser1 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:43 pm



To me, that pattern screams New York to Maine risk.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1653 Postby chaser1 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:45 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
jaxfladude wrote:Good news? And is it for real and also a more permanent feature?

Nothing’s permanent. Unless you ask our old friend Ninel Conde who used to believe in nothing but an East Coast trough. :lol:


FACT :ggreen:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1654 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:50 pm

chaser1 wrote:


To me, that pattern screams New York to Maine risk.


I feel the same way. :grr:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1655 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 pm

emeraldislenc wrote:It is almost like people are hinting the season is over. I still believe we will have some major hurricanes to deal with in the next 6 to 8 weeks.


It wouldn't be S2K without a immediate downcasting element at the first sign of modeled CONUS east coast troughiness / weak Bermuda Ridge. Even though it's August 28th :D
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1656 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:59 pm

toad strangler wrote:
emeraldislenc wrote:It is almost like people are hinting the season is over. I still believe we will have some major hurricanes to deal with in the next 6 to 8 weeks.


It wouldn't be S2K without a immediate downcasting element at the first sign of modeled CONUS east coast troughiness / weak Bermuda Ridge. Even though it's August 28th :D



It’s a right of passage each season. Until at least something forms right in the Bahamas and heads west or NW
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1657 Postby SconnieCane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:18 pm

SFLcane wrote:Welcome to December per GFS typhoon enhanced .. :D :roll:

https://i.imgur.com/vQPvA05.png


Looks like the perfect setup to suck any TC straight into Long Island. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1658 Postby Hammy » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:41 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Welcome to December per GFS typhoon enhanced .. :D :roll:

https://i.imgur.com/vQPvA05.png


Looks like the perfect setup to suck any TC straight into Long Island. :lol:


12z shows exactly that. Gloria 1985 track essentially

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1659 Postby sma10 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:54 pm

The Global Model Run discussion has always been a mixture of magic 8 ball and good-natured fun .. but this is the first season where I feel like we are literally back in the stone age. I don't trust any of these models on genesis, mid-range synoptic patterns .. nada. The whole season feels like The Twilight Zone
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1660 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:17 pm

sma10 wrote:The Global Model Run discussion has always been a mixture of magic 8 ball and good-natured fun .. but this is the first season where I feel like we are literally back in the stone age. I don't trust any of these models on genesis, mid-range synoptic patterns .. nada. The whole season feels like The Twilight Zone



I feel the same. I pay close attention but they seem to be simply for entertainment.
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