Tropical Wave in the West-Central Caribbean (Is Invest 91L)

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#181 Postby SFLcane » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:22 pm

What Caribbean storm lol. :roll:

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#182 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:23 pm

I am cautiously monitoring this situation. I think we should have a much better idea of how this system evolves within the next 36 -48 hours. Hopefully, we should have a clearer consensus of what materializes in the Western or Northwestern Caribbean as this week progresses.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#183 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:29 pm


With a signal that weak, if this storm does form, it would be the nail in the coffin for my faith in the eps at predicting cyclogenesis this season. Hard to go against it since its reputation is generally very high. Weird setup and weird season in general. I can’t recall a single storm this year that’s been a “shoe-in”. Teddy probably.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#184 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:35 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:

With a signal that weak, if this storm does form, it would be the nail in the coffin for my faith in the eps at predicting cyclogenesis this season. Hard to go against it since its reputation is generally very high. Weird setup and weird season in general. I can’t recall a single storm this year that’s been a “shoe-in”. Teddy probably.

the models are genesis blind this season. sally wasn't supposed to be there, and hit at like 100mph at that. that's one of several examples this season.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#185 Postby drezee » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:40 pm


Might I send you a picture of the Euro EPS 120 hours before the landfall of Hurricane Hanna....
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#186 Postby psyclone » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:44 pm

CPC 6-10 and 8-14 day output continues to tilt wetter than normal for peninsular florida implying something coming up from the northwest caribbean. Could be a TC(s) or just some enhanced moisture shearing off or something in between. One thing worth noting is "normal" is now dry over central and northern florida as we are now in the dry season...so even that isn't exactly a strong signal. But it is something and certainly worth monitoring. FWIW the 3 to 4 week outlooks are also tilting wet...probably a nod to the calendar and nina climo...which makes sense.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#187 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:03 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:

With a signal that weak, if this storm does form, it would be the nail in the coffin for my faith in the eps at predicting cyclogenesis this season. Hard to go against it since its reputation is generally very high. Weird setup and weird season in general. I can’t recall a single storm this year that’s been a “shoe-in”. Teddy probably.

Isaias, Kyle, Omar, Vicky, Alpha, and Beta were also moderately well detected by the models in advance. The CFS sniffed out Isaias and Beta weeks ahead of genesis, and I think Paulette as well. Still, either the models didn’t forecast development or horribly underestimated peak intensity for much of the season’s storms — Bertha, Dolly, Edouard, Gonzalo, Hanna, Josephine, Laura, Marco, Nana, Sally, and Wilfred.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#188 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:12 pm

I literally disappear for a week and come back to find 10 pages of discussion on a storm that may or may not ever exist. :eek:
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#189 Postby mpic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:16 pm

Stupid question but will this cold front and drier weather possibly have a big influence to keep it away from Texas? I have a roof scheduled to be replaced.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#190 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:16 pm

Maybe they’ll start decreasing development chances at 8pm if the GFS and GEFS even become less enthusiastic.

That or the models are screwing with our minds YET again. :x
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#191 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 pm

mpic wrote:Stupid question but will this cold front and drier weather possibly have a big influence to keep it away from Texas? I have a roof scheduled to be replaced.

Texas is closed from seeing anymore land falling TC’s in my opinion. Usually after late-September cold fronts prevent anything Tropical from coming anywhere near the Northwest Gulf Coast.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#192 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:18 pm



The EPS showed zilch about 5 days before Laura hit as a high end Category 4.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#193 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:18 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Maybe they’ll start decreasing development chances at 8pm if the GFS and GEFS even become less enthusiastic.

That or the models are screwing with our minds YET again. :x

no they wont..... why we we do this with literally every storm?
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#194 Postby mpic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:23 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
mpic wrote:Stupid question but will this cold front and drier weather possibly have a big influence to keep it away from Texas? I have a roof scheduled to be replaced.

Texas is closed from seeing anymore land falling TC’s in my opinion. Usually after late-September cold fronts prevent anything Tropical from coming anywhere near the Northwest Gulf Coast.


If it wasn't 2020, I wouldn't even be asking lol.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#195 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:26 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Maybe they’ll start decreasing development chances at 8pm if the GFS and GEFS even become less enthusiastic.

That or the models are screwing with our minds YET again. :x

They literally just increased it...

No, I don't think they will or even should decrease development chances.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#196 Postby Loveweather12 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:30 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
mpic wrote:Stupid question but will this cold front and drier weather possibly have a big influence to keep it away from Texas? I have a roof scheduled to be replaced.

Texas is closed from seeing anymore land falling TC’s in my opinion. Usually after late-September cold fronts prevent anything Tropical from coming anywhere near the Northwest Gulf Coast.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#197 Postby SFLcane » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:31 pm

There is some long range signal from the eps but it this point we don’t know which wave.

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#198 Postby Ubuntwo » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:40 pm

Loveweather12 wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
mpic wrote:Stupid question but will this cold front and drier weather possibly have a big influence to keep it away from Texas? I have a roof scheduled to be replaced.

Texas is closed from seeing anymore land falling TC’s in my opinion. Usually after late-September cold fronts prevent anything Tropical from coming anywhere near the Northwest Gulf Coast.

Per climo Texas landfalls can occur up until about mid-October, though very rare.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#199 Postby FireRat » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:55 pm

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I guess this season it's going to take a full-blown sub 900 mb 1000-mile wide Cat 5 monster to get our S2K 'Bears' high on some honey!

Alrighty, back to topic, just looking at all that convection in the Caribbean makes you think something is already brewing. NHC already is making Orangeade, expect Red Kool-aid in a few days IMO.

This season is definitely one for us to NOW-cast and not just abide by the models unless something is already a TS, if even. The models are not very reliable for genesis this year, and that is a fact. Was Sally even supposed to be there? How about the strongest Lousiana hurricane in at least 150 years? Had Laura smashed New Orleans to smithereens, I bet many people would have far more respect for this beast of a season that we're already having.

October is primetime for West Caribbean hurricanes, and this season is likely to be active there, All eyes on the Caribbean in the next few weeks. The fact that some models even have a system in the western Caribbean is already a strong indicator that we'll have a tropical storm or hurricane there by the weekend or next week, IMHO. Don't sleep on this one guys, or whatever follows it over the rest of October.

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#200 Postby Shell Mound » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:10 pm

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